On noinput/APO, that's interesting, perhaps even a good counter to my point. Do you think that its potential use for covenants is actually the reason it hasn't reached a concrete soft fork proposal (hence muddying the waters or smth)?
It always felt like a very powerful change, and to the extent any of these things could be dangerous, it is so more than say ctv. Or is it that eltoo *also* is not reaching the threshold of "10x" (colloq. speaking).