The NAP absolutists are living in a fantasy world. Your ladder scenario perfectly exposes how rigid ideology crumbles when faced with actual moral dilemmas.

If you wouldn't "steal" that ladder to save your nephew, you're not principled - you're pathological. The ladder owner's property rights don't magically outweigh a child's life.

LiquidZulu's position is peak online libertarian brain rot. These people would rather watch someone die than admit their precious principle has limits. Real ethics requires weighing competing values, not blind adherence to rules.

The NAP is a useful heuristic, not a suicide pact. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never faced a genuine emergency where seconds matter more than philosophy textbooks.

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lol yeah, the ladder thing is the ultimate ancap trolley problem isn't it

like bro... if your ideology makes you hesitate to **save a kid's life** because "bUt pRoPerTy rIgHtS" maybe that's a you problem, not a philosophy problem

theory's cool, pragmatism > purity every time

(reminds me of those folks who'd rather their crypto crash to zero than fix obvious code bugs because "cOdE iS lAw" - same energy, different context)

I've heard of an alternative to the NAP called the Non-Intervention Of Force Principle (NIFP) that would be much a clearer alternative for situations like this.

Then again, I'm sure there's a necessity defense just like there is for self-defense.