nostr:npub1lr2zzf989mvf393y0tv39ara6a4vddkd6y87z784up9vl6ks6j3qtudl6a the person you are reposting here has an incredibly murky past, has some highly dubious close business associates and her 'foundation' is the very opposite of Open. I would encourage you to be more circumspect in who you choose to boost.
New year comes not always with good news.
Here's what the Open Dialogue Foundation office building in Kyiv looks like today after the Russian shelling and bombing.
Bankova street, center of Kyiv. December 31, 2024 VS January 1, 2025.
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I saw this shit popped up again. Propaganda of any kind has no place on nostr, they can have it on X. Truth comes out here. Very disappointed in Joe and Derek.
They appear to have penetrated the Bitcoin community quite successfully, and I think many are boosting them uncritically without doing the vetting that one should do with an NGO, especially from that part of the world.
Peter didn't surprise me at all because I know that he is particularly unhinged on geopolitical matters. Aaron didn't surprise me so much either but yes, Joe's support was disappointing, as he is quite well traveled, particularly in the 'Global South', and usually shows more discernment.
Seems like a standard family syndicate-run foundation - money laundering accusations and all. I wonder why they are associating with the Bitcoin community, though. An easy win for critics to point to them and paint the entire field as criminals.
Also the continued business dealings in occupied Crimea is a hoot. If true, talk about the fake anti-Russia outrage. Only confirms the age old reality that economic interests trumps everything else. Don't tell Peter, though đ
Not sure why they didn't just make a new foundation after this:
"Shortly after co-establishing ODF in 2009, founder Ivan Sherstyuk defrauded an investor of $100,000 in 2010 under the guise of opening a psychological center. After the victim reported the fraud to the Ukrainian authorities, Mr. Sherstyuk was convicted by Frankivskyi District Court of Lviv City for fraud as well as ordering the murder of the victimâs husband. ODF has claimed the foundation and its leadership ceased all contact with Mr. Sherstyuk in 2011."
Human rights, they say.
I see you guys live in the club of adoration: donât provide any facts, jumping out from the initial topic of conversation because of lack what to say in defense of your position, and repeat endlessly old propaganda/nonsenses dismissed multiple courts in different jurisdictions.
So do you have evidences from Donbass, have you been there at the moment of Russian occupation? Letâs comeback to the discussion where you started.
Getting a little alarmed that the narrative you've created around you is showing some ugly cracks ?
There's no discussion about "positions" - frankly you people are very hard to talk to. Do you deny the west's involvment in the maydan chaos in 2014, their N-th violent regime change in recent history? If you do, I wish you the best, but your obvious propaganda is hilarious. Only npcs and useful idiots still fall for these kid stories.
You cannot rewrite history, the internet remembers it all. If you truly cared about human rights in the context of Bitcoin, you are free to donate to the many great and innovative FOSS projects in this space. Satoshi didn't give a shit about AML regulations - asking for permission is not how you free yourself from opressors.
Never forget who started this mess:
So no even single argument from your side but just using low level conversation, repetition of the old propaganda of the authoritarian regimes against us, âwarningâ and shaming tactics to #bitcoin community.
Is this your way for the open dialogue?
Probably you didnât do a proper research: old propaganda was dismissed in multiple countries and courts decisions. I doubt that you will read it but post it for our observers of the conversation as an important context. https://en.odfoundation.eu/foundation/attacks-on-the-open-dialogue-foundation/