This conversation was explicitly anti-normie… when Hodl and Cason come on the show I view it as more of a group therapy/discovery session (or a “circle jerk” as you call it).
Not every podcast needs to cater to the lowest common denominator. The feedback on my shows with Hodl and Cason is overwhelmingly positive.
I have episodes that are much more precoiner friendly, and even made a limited series that specifically caters to newcomers: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQVlIVuMPXLYJ-nwCBUltmTeTs1AzmEqz&si=gXUggrsFt0d8r8vU