I sold several digital products in the past over 4 years or so and have ran numerous price tests; including letting people pay any amount they liked.

In total I had about 10,000 sales. (Sale doesn’t mean I made any money because customer could choose to “pay” nothing)

Of the 10,000ish sales, 7454 paid 0.

796 paid between $1 and $100

And the rest paid over $100.

ZERO people paid $100 voluntarily. It was only because I set a price that people paid this.

The product where I set no asking price had 2284 sales. Of those, only 16 people paid over $1

Almost the entire revenue I had came from charging what I viewed to be fair value. And while it was not my only income (i freelanced on top of that), the sales I had did help out a lot.

Maybe in a scaled nostr and the ease of payment with zaps the numbers would have been better for V4v, but in the legacy environment it just doesn’t work.

Part of the reason why pay what you want doesn’t work is because people need anchors - price anchors in the absence of comparative pricing. Price is one of the major signals which people use to make decisions and in the absence of price, people tend to equate that with FREE.

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So you are saying, people are willing to pay voluntarily (I personally saw that work many places - I even saw a place that allows you to pay for free meals to others, meaning “pay double”), but that only works if you give them a price an anchor and not let them determine the value?

I hope my understanding is correct.

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Some people do pay voluntarily but it’s a negligible number of people. What I’m saying is people will pay if you set a price. Even with a recommended price, people still pay nothing.

fair analysis, also meets my experience from last 15 years with digital products.

In case of free is it because actually doing the payment is cumbersome or because people wanted to pay just a few cents and system would not support it or neither of those?

Il est vrai qu'il y a des systèmes qui ne permettent certaines actions néanmoins des subtilités existent juste les rechercher légalement puisque certaines actions demeurent libres ..

I am not sure. Could be that it’s too much work or could be that they didn’t value it at all.

Or they didn’t have money for that thing.

Doing small payments by credit card is annoying and lightning is not usually supported. I think anyone can spare a few sats for something valuable.

I have always wanted to test a system where people are required to input their credit card information, but aren't obligated to actually pay anything. A/B testing.

Very interesting. When you say you're anchoring the price for the $100 people, are you allowing them to pay what they want but stating the recommend price is $100, or can they only pay $100 to purchase that item?

What were the digital products you were selling?

I can’t say exactly- some stuff for developers, some for startups and some for designers.

"people need anchors"

True that

The time and effort to estimate fair value is a friction

I base "fair value" for nostr services at the Xitter ad-free rate of $16 / month

Divided between relays, media hosting and apps

Part of that is put into Open Sats as an easy way to distribute throughout the nostr ecosystem

Part is ad-hoc zaps

Open Sats is great but I don't think it should be a permanent solution

As someone who *likes* paying I prefer that ppl charge for their work

For content though I tend to spend when motivated by an individual work

Subscription models I feel produce higher volume less inspiration

So I spend more by V4V

Interesting insights! What kind of digital products were you selling in these experiments? Was it downloadable software, SaaS software, or other non-software products (e.g design assets)?

One was a database, another a license for developer tools and some design assets for designers.

I liked the idea of “buy me lunch” or “buy me a beer” button, which had present zap amounts. We designed that a long time ago before our note zaps were banned.

Something like that is probably better than name your price. Also makes people feel like you’re feeding someone 😆

#zapathon mess with their samples