Commies don't seem to understand that the person who starts the business takes on all the risk while the workers take zero risk. You don't deserve the entire profit of the business for saying "I would like to work here" if I'm wrong then start a business and make sure only the workers get the money and let's see how long your business runs lol
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And you have to pay for all costs of production before a single unit hits the market.
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You are missing the point. This is not why they are Commies. They are Commies because they worship whoever has the most power and largest megaphone, and therefore would never even see your post or seriously consider this question in the first place.
no I'm a commie because I understand capitalism is a mental illness
Stockholm syndrome is strong with this one
Crony capitalism is not capitalism
There is no other system that uses human greed to improve life
The perfect angels you expect to come manage the economy are a dangerous and childish fantasy
Ah yes this validates deciding the social hierarchy by moving bits around on computers and moving gold around in vaults
This is what happened when we departed from capitalism:
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Do your own research or Have fun staying poor 🤷♂️
Ah yes america stopped being capitalist in 1971 how could I forget
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I didn't say this is why they are commies.
Believing something that isn't true is what you call "understanding" it? That's dumb.
Business owners these days mostly got there by inheritance, not personal risk.
If you trace it back to the beginning, you get the history of capitalist systems empowering liars and cold calculating psychopaths.
If you open a dictionary, it will say something like: the word "risk" means to do something with a higher than necessary chance of a bad outcome, not to do something that boosts your chances of capitalistic success.
If you start a business you don't know how the market will react to it, you may be forced to close before you are able to make any profit and you would have lost all the money it took to start the business. That's a risk. That's risking your capital. Rather the money was earned through hard work or a loan or whatever that doesn't change the fact that the owner is risking and the workers are risking nothing.
Having capital is risky, every decision you can make on how to deal with it is risky, including starting a business.
That doesn't mean slavery is OK.
Voluntarily applying for a job isn't slavery.
What about being required to work for people who inherited the right to own others, because the requirement to work for the owner class is what you inherited?
That sounds like slavery to me
You aren't required to work. You can start your owe business and work for yourself if you would like. I do however think you should look into what slavery actually is because again voluntarily applying for a job that you can quit at anytime isn't slavery.
I was born in the US as a member of the slave class, so no, I cannot start my own business and work for myself. I can start my own business and die for myself, but it won't "work" for any purposes of my own. Others at a worse level of slavery can't even start a business at all.
And I'm sure you are also a member of the slave class in a country where you can't start a business that works for you, but you have the capitalism sickness rotting your brain having you pretend slavery is freedom.
You haven't said anything that's a valid criticism you have only whined and said woe is me pity me. That's it. You absolutely can and people do start businesses all the time.
Most of those people are slaves whose businesses work for their owners. The ones whose businesses work for themselves are much richer than you and me (or so tiny their business barely qualifies as a business)
You mean the owner started a business to make money, who would have thought lol. People have all kinds of small business and do very well for themselves.
Again, most do very well for their owners, not themselves
And you're still ignoring all the people who just don't have any reasonable chance at starting any business
You not accepting what I said isn't me ignoring anything it's just you not accepting it. I have family members who are not college educated they didn't even finish highschool and have started several businesses and done pretty well for themselves. If you voluntarily apply for a job you are working on behalf of the owner by your own free will and again the owner is the one who risked all the capital and pays the worker an agreed upon amount from what is made, so yeah they should get paid more. If you are unhappy with your pay you are able to try to get a raise or quit and go work somewhere else that will pay you more.
How do your friends avoid filing taxes or paying them indirectly?