A lot of people seem to believe that Jeffrey Epstein recruited underage girls in order to videotape them having sex with rich and powerful people as compromat for an intelligence agency, perhaps Mossad, and that he was murdered in prison to cover up the loose end.

While I cannot prove that this is not true, there is almost no evidence for this story. The evidence points to a simpler story: Jeffrey Epstein was a socialite and financier who had connections with lots of famous and powerful people, and he also liked having sex with minors and so he recruited minors so that he could have sex with them. Several famous people also took the opportunity to have sex with minors facilitated by Epstein, but not as videotaped compromat. The second time he was imprisoned for it he committed suicide by strangulation.

The hyoid bone can be fractured by hanging, but more often by strangulation, and the description of Epstein's body as found is more like strangulation. You can commit suicide by strangulation (please don't).

The strange occurance of the camera being off, the cell not being monitored, could have been guards who were turning their backs to let him commit suicide ("fucking pedo should die, let's let him do it."). Papers related to Epstein said he was a suicide risk prior to his death. US Attorneys office offered a plea deal to the correctional officers if they claim they fell asleep, who rejected it claiming they did nothing wrong, but clearly the Justice Department suspected the guards.

Earlier on July 23 Epstein attempted suicide, which put him on suicide watch. But Epstein's attorney argued against it and he was taken off suicide watch but stull was supposed to be checked on every 30 minutes. So the bedsheets were not toilet paper in this cell as some claim.

The claim that Alexander Acosta said "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone" has only one source, an editorial in The Daily Beast by Vicky Ward who says it came from an interview she did with a former senior White House official and this is what she claims Accosta told the Trump team. It is not in court documents or congressional testimony from Accosta as far as I can tell, and regarding it Accosta said "I would hesitate to take this reporting as fact."

Maxwell is in prison for assisting Epstein in recruiting underaged girls for sex with Epstein.

The famous people that various girls claimed were involved in sex acts in this situation may or may not have been. The evidence doesn't strongly favor either side.

I have found no evidence of video tapes recovered from the Island with the names of famous people on their labels. I vaguely remember seeing it in a video way back when, but either I am mistaken or the Internet has been scrubbed of such a thing. If anybody has it, please share. I'm currently assuming this was a myth at the time and never happened.

The conspiracy theory was fun, but it is too flimsy.

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Seems like a huge fabrication and pure distraction. Not even worth looking into.

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I had followed Epstein as far back as the early 2000's before his first conviction and there were rumors about him doing exactly what the current day "conspiracy theories" stated even back then. Not to say that is what happened. What we can say is that there was probably some very powereful people involved. There had been extensive effort to cover up even the tunnels on the island with concrete.

Personally I believe that Epstein was more of a middle man to the operation and Maxwell is more important.

There are tons of interesting links, coincidences, allegations, and such. Whitney Webb did huge amount of research. Ghislane's father was interesting.

But also it is easy to see connections that don't mean what you think. Science is plagued with this, mistakenly believing a cause when it isn't a cause.

What I do think is that it could still potentially be an "ongoing case." I

n the mid 2000 I was surprised that he strangely got a sweetheart deal.

I do not remember if it was a sealed case or if it was uploaded to Pacer.

I do remember reading a lot of court documents related to the case though.

I always felt as if he was just a middle man to something much bigger even after his first case.

I couldn't explain it but then I started hearing that he was still under surveilance and we now know about his second case.

I think the NXIVM sex ring case only involved those living in the United States but if Jeffrey was found to be running something international then that would go beyond Jeffrey, DOJ, FBI, and could still be "active."

I put active in quotes because when I say active I do not mean in reguard to Jeffrey.

The whole thing could be the Maxwell case but we know it as the Jeffrey case.

Anywho that could also potentially explain why the lack of release information on Jeffrey by the DOJ and FBI.

I do find it funny how CNN, ABC, MSNBC, all the suddend have an intrest in it.

I hope they think Trump was involved other than being a cooperating witness.

How old were the girls he trafficked

14-18. He was an ephebophile. People say pedophile because they don't know enough words.

Interesting. So there is no evidence that they were younger than 14? I was thinking the media was trying to hide the evidence of younger girls being involved. There is a big difference between someone being with an 7 year old compared to a 15 year old.

I can't account for everybody and I'm doing that much research. But the indictment I read said there were "dozens" of "minor girls", had one charge of paying for sex, and has the statement "The victims described herein were as young as 14 years old at the time..." although I believe all but one were at least 15. And that he "recruited, enticed, harbored, transported, provided, and obtained numerous individuals who were less than 18 years old... and who where then caused to engage in at least one commercial sex act in ... New York".

Virginia Giuffre, Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein accuser, dies

26 April 2025

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cql67qk0dd3o

Yes I was paying attention when that happened. She was in a car accident a week or two earlier and reportedly had organ damage or something? Then they say she committed suicide.

Good. Epstein didn't kill himself. Virginia didn't kill herself.

You don't know the exact age of the children that were raped and molested on that sick island.

Raping children is digusting. Just imagine when you were 15 if some pedo comes and rapes you.

We don't know what else happened there ...

The only problem with the "not compromat" theory is, why was he so wealthy? Or is there a simple story behind that, that I have been misled about.

He helped rich people hide money. For example, if they were in a divorce, so they wouldn't have to split it 50/50. By cavorting with the rich he was able to find the richest of clients.

He could have been funded by an intel agency, but I don't like to believe things just because it might be true if there isn't really better evidence.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/acosta-was-told-epstein-belonged-intelligence-ryan-saavedra

Eric Weinstein also said he knew things that he shouldn’t have known.

Doesn’t prove anything and I don’t really have a dog in this fight, just fyi

Blablabla sure buddy how many sheckels did you get for this word salad?

1/2

i used to feel bad about calling you senile boomer with regards to your takes on grains and seed oils

but i am sorry to say your condition may be progressing

i will not bother addressing any of your "points" since you only reply to people who agree with you

"I’m not a sexual predator, I’m an ‘offender’,” he told the newspaper at the time. “It’s the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel.” - Jeffrey Epstein (after pleading guilty and being convicted in 2008 of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute)

if i wanted to have sex with children why would i try to involve as many rich, famous and powerful people in it by flying them all to my private island with hundreds of flights spanning several decades ?

wouldn't it be logical to try and keep a low profile about something like this ?

LOL

Couldn't tell ya.

interesting. but it doesn't look sexual to me. look at his fingers - he isn't trying to feel her up. it's almost a hover hand. he is also leaning away from her.

isn't even in the same league as Joe Biden who did worse on live TV ... pretty much every single time anybody let children near him

https://www.bitchute.com/video/J3lsh7Uapq6A

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6j4Cnp9X4uFz

Feel free to defend a convicted billionaire pimp with a private island and pedophile friends but I won't

even referring to Epstein as a pedophile is insulting to the intelligence because he was not interested in the girls himself

i haven't seen a single picture of Epstein getting cozy with a young woman the way there are pictures of both Trump and Biden getting cozy with their own daughters and grand daughters and pictures of Hunter actually fucking his 14 y/o niece

the only pictures of Epstein getting sexy are with Ghislaine

In his opinion, what he did shouldn't be illegal. The girls were not that young (14-18) and he didn't force them.

As a society we have agreed on laws against it because we know girls of that age still just do whatever they are told, do not really exert their own will yet, and a commanding presence suggesting things to them is hard to push back against when you are that young.

But why would evolution make it such that girls go through puberty and yet no men are attracted to them for another 4 years even as they are biologically ready? It's not logical. Clearly some men will be attracted as soon as puberty has completed - the early bird gets the worm.

Wow, that seems like a lot of thought and effort you've put into your position. I am interested to see if that effort ends up being worth it to you.

Nah, I barely know anything. I just type a lot. :-)