You can't look at the current needs of niche communities and then think copying Reddit is a good idea.
Nobody is waiting for a dEcEnTrALiZeD version of that.
Moderation is the main value prop there. So if you don't see how Nostr can do moderation better (and add opportunity to it), it's a waste of time.
Wrong take. Of course you can look at the current needs of niche communities and think copying Reddit is a good idea.
I know plenty of people waiting on it, and multiple building it (including myself).
Does it need to be rebuilt e2e in its exactness? No. But what do people want from a decentralized reddit? It's community control. The thing you're hinting at.
Why can't nostr do moderation better?
All I hear is defeatism in a world that needs reddit clones.
I :110percent: think Nostr can do moderation better. And make it interoperable, and make it the easiest thing to integrate into your existing website/app/project/... and work with literally content type the community needs (way beyond forum posts), etc...
But, getting that right makes you end up with a solution that barely resembles Reddit any longer. That's my point.
It means different UX and UI choices for like 80% of the thing.
Not telling some LLMs to make "Reddit but on relays and with zaps".
What and how are you building? 👀
I would like to build lots of things, for now I am slowly scratching away at a few things:
ribbit.wiki is my recent project of adding (better and more functional) Nostr support to mediawiki
Ribbit is my (very beta) reddit clone for Android based on the Boost for XYZ apps, recycling some of Amethyst code for better or worse.
Oni is a fork of Owncast which will implement live event broadcasting to nostr for sovereign streaming
And eventually we will make some video games with some degree of nostr interop 🤧
Most people leaving Reddit don't even go to alternative forum apps. They often go to apps that don't even have forum posts, instead they go to wherever there's still some sense of community discussion to be found.
Going to reply individually as each comment has different points and questions.
As for this one, I agree but I would also suggest that Reddit has some of the best UI tooling in the web's history for niche and large communities.
I don't know exactly where everyone goes when leaving reddit and I would imagine the answer is different for many groups and people.
In my experience, the largest reddit exodus was about 3 years ago when people began flocking to Lemmy in response to third-party API changes. I found nostr in that same window of time and thought building an alternative to Lemmy would be better. A year later I ended up using all of these options. Reddit, Lemmy, Nostr, and Pubky. Anecdotally my own experience defies your proposal. And all who chose Lemmy effectively are still using the same UI conceptually. I use Boost for Lemmy which is just Boost for Reddit as the developer also moved to Lemmy in response to the API changes.
Discord has a tight hold on many communities as it offers a combination of "resources and conversations." I still use Discord of course, as many of my own communities have lived there for over a decade now.
And so my point here is going to be- it doesn't matter where people go. The UI capabilities and the concept of sovereign communities are what bring users to a platform to create their own communities. What creates staying power is if the communities can evolve to become their own platforms.
None of the centralized services want that for us. Nostr and Lemmy offer it to some degree. Pubky forgot that platforms should cater to multiple communities but it works as it stands for isolated community platform software.
Which, all of this boils down to, "indexing on nostr is cooked and makes it really difficult to provide highly-available notes at competitive speeds". For now. And perhaps this is my own shortcomings, but I don't see a lot of forward momentum in this area.
