Instagram, TikTok, YouTube and others have a concept of "views". It's pretty simple... users can get positive feedback on their content EVEN IF nobody "likes" or "comments". Nostr lacks this. I think we actually need it to onboard Normies. Normies will show up here, think "I'm getting zero views!" even though they might be getting MORE views than back on Instagram or TikTok.

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That would require clients to send view events for every viewed note, and for clients to count the view events for every note it displays to the user. I think that's how reactions work, just would be more of them.

Yes. More of them. That's important for Normies. We need to make them feel like they are making progress when they upload!

New market for bot views would open. Zaps for views.

Sure, and there would be lots of gaming of the views thing. But still. For the Normies....

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Normies normies normies.

I hear your issue that we don't want to alienate ppl from the getgo.

However...

The problem with the emphasis on normies is that they will never switch to nostr for these features, and everything has serious opportunity cost.

Apealing to the demands of the crowd in the middle of the bell-curve will never help us cross the chasm.

I say focus on the things that matter for the crazy people for now. We are early and it's the neophiliac audience you want to address to survive.

How much until the normies demand another feature some nostr app lacks now, and then it should not just do the same but look the same and be the same as the centralized shit.

And then you realize you don't have tens of billions of dollars to create the same thing, which still would lack a lot of things and the normies are long gone.

But the ppl who loved and joined nostr for what it really is and truly get it, what did you do for them in the meantime?

Recipe for death in my book.

Create the UX and give them the freedom they cannot have elsewhere. And stabilize until you get a usable app.

That's my cookbook.

but why do we need to onboard these normies ?

let them discover nostr organicaly, don't force them.

do we really need all people on nostr?

I never used twatter, instashit and fbibook, but I joined to nostr because of bitcoiners.

I do not see nostr as a bitcoin onboarding tool. And I do not see nostr as a social media. Is more like a protocol to add more features for bitcoin. See NWC, nostr market, private DMs etc. Here is the power of nostr.

Posting memes and videos is only as "imported" feature to have fun.

A new user if it doesn't know about bitcoin, nostr will be just another twatter. Do we really want nostr to be just another twatter?

I consider nostr more for bitcoiners that know what are they doing.

All the rest... fuck'em, I don't give a shit about NPCs.

Sure, I understand your perspective. My perspective: There are people in my life being abused on a day-to-day basis by Meta -- they are essentially enslaved by Instagram. These are people close to me. I don't want to tell them "Stop using social media" -- because I think that's like say "stop reading newspapers" (in 1985)... Social media is unstoppable. I would like however to migrate these people to Nostr, instead of Instagram.