This idea that there is this huge population of progressive parents out here trying to push physical sex changing surgeries and force hormone treatments on young children is insanity. I know a lot of progressives. I know a lot of progressive parents, people who make me look like a conservative by comparison, but I don’t know a single progressive parent pushing this nonsense. I can say confidently that idk a single parent, nor have I personally heard of a single parent who would approve of such a permanent surgery for a young child. Most progressive parents I know just let their children dress however they like, without regard for gender norms and try to be respectful to their children’s name and pronoun preferences (most kids don’t think about shit like this, which is only right. Just let them be kids, for gods’ sake). Even in conversation, most parents I’ve spoken to about this have said they might consider having a conversation about hormone treatment when their child is an older teenager if that child came to them about it and was able to actually understand what is going on.

Long story short, progressive parents aren’t advocating this as a whole, and those groups that you hear about pushing this are probably people in the medical industry trying to open up a new market of services, purely to make money. Don’t believe the BS. #grownostr

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Who you know doesn't matter there are millions of morons caught up in this total effing nonsense.

And your friends will totally back the people who are implementing said policies while saying their oppose those same policies.

As much as I hate the idea of letting parents brainwash their children and perminantly surgically mutilate them, we have to stay out of other people's business with regard to their kids. Pushing this shit in mandated government education centers, thats way over the line.

I haven’t heard of this being mandated in public schools (yet) but if it ever is, that’s reason 754774 to take your kids out of the govt school system

Yea think the idea of advocating for parents’ rights to something and advocating for parents to do something are different.

Couldn't agree more. They think it's some sort of canary in the coal mine or an epidemic or grooming. And the people screaming PROTECT THE KIDS the loudest and the most suspect.

I will say this, I do not know any progressives personally that advocate it for their kids, I have however personally heard some of them say that it is up to the parents of other kids though, and I have personally heard parents (between working in the very progressive Old Town of Lansing, and a visit to Dow Gardens) praising their children for their choice to be to be their opposite gender and I’d imagine those would be the type of parents that would jump at the opportunity

Respectfully, this is where you and I differ. I wouldn’t assume that.

I don't personally know any nazis.

I don't know anyone that would advocate for nazi policies.

And yet the azov battalion is a real thing.

Just because your freinds group isn't pushing something dosent mean others aren't.

Someone had to write "this book is gay".

Someone printed it.

Someone bought it.

Someone decided 12 year olds needed to read it.

So yeah, it's happening.

This is why I never said “all”, why I never implied that ALL progressive parents are this or that. Making a statement like that would be foolish. This post is relating my personal experience. Yes, there are outliers. To use your example, yes, the Azov Battalion exists, but that doesn’t make every conservative a nazi in the same way yes, there are scumbags pushing gender affirming surgery on young children, but that doesn’t make every progressive parent or every supporter of trans rights one of these outlier scumbags

Who cares what the parents have to say? The state has removed their voice in such matters where I live.

Here a minor can seek out complete transition surgery, hormones, top surgery, bottom surgery, & in most cases significant cosmetic surgery, and the state (as well as private) insurance is required to cover it, and the medical agents are not allowed to notify the parents. It doesn't matter whether parents are pushing it. It only matters that a teen, already troubled adjusting to the changes in their body during that time of their life, is presented with this as a "risk-free" option by any authority voice in their environment and can then seek out a medical professional who will prescribe and perform it.

(legality of above is per Oregon ORS 731 as revised by HB 2002-2023 which is currently sitting on the governor's desk)

The state should have absolutely nothing to do with this. Every medical choice should be between the individual involved and the medical provider.

BUT, taking my anarchist hat off for a minute to look at this from a statist point of view, this is something I think should be age limited to probably 16 years of age (I admit that is arbitrary), as many trans people know for sure by that age, and many trans minors live in households that would NEVER support such medical decisions, which infringes upon their rights. Unfortunately, issues like this need to be addressed on a case by case basis, which is something the state is entirely too incompetent to ever do.

“Unfortunately, issues like this need to be addressed on a case by case basis, which is something the state is entirely too incompetent to ever do.”

This part here! All day long!