39:00 gets into venezuela. i remember on nostr there was this venezuelan photographer who was getting boosted i had to unfollow him on #artstr or whatever tag & it was just before that election mess over there i did not follow it closely—point being atjack’s whole activist thing plus that lyn alden propster and all of this is playbook underground power politics and this mike benz interview gets into it—so then the nostr guys promoted the venezuelan photographer BUT he had already been put in “position” before is what i am pointing out. i remember thinking something weird about that photographer at the time. seemed too “accidental.” now makes sense.