If you can't win an argument against human/bot but can win the same argument against just a human, it is not the helping hand that is pathetic but the fact that you are winning the argument against that person just because she/he can't articulate the intricacies of the counterargument as effectively as LLM.
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you don't win an argument against an LLM, because there's nothing to win. the moment someone uses ai they have forfeited, because their arguments make no sense anymore