Consensus goes where incentives lead it. If incentives were on our side there wouldn't be much of a fight.

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What is our side? And why should there be a fight. It is a personal decision if you want to fight. I decide to not fight. Let other people do their things.

We should figth for freedom while we can, when the table turns around it will be too late, and time is running out...

I agree that it is always the right time to work for personal freedom. And the result of many people working for personal freedom is the freedom of society.

But I disagree, that it ever can be too late for it.

I wasnt speaking for you. I was speaking to you, on behalf of us.

There is a fight whether you like it or not. Enmity is asymmetrical.

Ok. Quiet reactive stance from your side. Your freedom your choice.

You said "freedom fighters" not me. So is there a fight or not?

I confused myself. Yes freedom defnitly is something one always fights for. And this fight begins within each of us fighting against commodity.

Yes. I think people who live in a mostly just space are valuing savety mora and seem to forget the value of freedom.

So I really think it is an intrinsic fight within us to see the value of freedom. And to see, that we loose it under all circumstances when we do nothing against it. Already just chilling and drinking some alcohol can showcase this.

Yes it is defnitly a freedom to do so at first. But it can lead us to loose the freedom to speak clearly. And over long we loose many freedoms when turning alcoholics.