100%!

My added color is because I 'hope' someone that believes in the whole fake value thing reads this and hesitates for a moment - thinking, "...wow, maybe intrinsic value does not make sense..."

The process of de-programing brainwashed minds is a very slow process. We all need to see something many times JUST to acknowledge we 'might' be wrong! It's what makes discussions turn to arguments. And that's JUST the first step! There has to be a desire there to research things on your own, which is rare in itself.

When I hear someone mention intrinsic value, I know I'm talking to either a brainwashed person or an empty vessel. It's as clear as day to me now - but I lived, sadly, in that world for over 25 years. Just glad I was not an empty vessel - most die in that world!