I agree with you on the second point, but if we continue with that thinking, then it's not unreasonable to say the the "spoilage" began with the advent of agriculture

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I don't want to explain this here. Just do one Google search.

There are hundreds of books that make a case for this exact theory, written by people who have dedicated their entire lives to understanding the Industrial Revolution and its impacts. You just woke up one day and decided to dismiss everything? Wow, you are completely delusional.

I am 22 years old. What is your age?

I'm not dismissing. I'm agreeing that the industrial revolution had dire consequences for the human race. our boy Ted Kaczynski knew that a long time ago.

im adding on top of that and saying if the industrial revolution had consequences, then then surely the advent of agriculture had dire consequences as well. we know this to be true. as you say, it's in the literature

I'm 21 so not unlike yourself

nice as hominem btw

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