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Because of the rug pull impossibility and single user final settlement, lightning seems to be in the same category as the base layer, base money with zero counterparty risk.

Everything else seems to be a variant of fiduciary media, with different trust tradeoffs and technological implementation.
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kukks 2y ago

Actually there is some counterparty risk, if you stay offline too long (and don't use watchtowers)

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Max 2y ago

Well, you run at risk of receiving invalid onchain utxos if you turn off your full node...

I guess correct use of the software and protocol is an assumption.