Women who don't need C-sections used to simply outbreed everyone else, but now our fertility is hobbled, so the natural advantage is gone. Lots of women will have 2 C-sections, but few would want 6 of them.

The ammount of those surgeries I've heard in the late years is unprecedented. Like giving birth is not normal now and you should be asleep while at it. And it's a hippy thing if you want your children to be born like twenty five thousands of years of (pretty much) success dictate.

And I've seen also the calamities of, at least, the first month of that creature and the mother.

And I've heard stupid excuses like:

"She chose it because she was afraid"

"The doctor recommended it because the baby was big" (not at all big)

"I wanted the baby to be born on the 25th because-insert some stupid reason-" or because the father had to travel on the 26th

Or the stupidest of them all that the doctor wanted to go on vacation two days later so better deliver before and leave.

And others who simply say "I rather not talk about it".

Since it was a violation of their will or something like that...

My wife was able to give birth once with no C-section. Hoping baby number 2 will be the same.

My wonderful wife, long may she reign, does not have wide hips. Tall and thin. But all six of our kids have come naturally, much to the surprise of her aunts.

Wow, very interesting thread. I'm due in about 5 weeks, first baby. I'm gonna be doing what I can to make sure it's natural!

Heard from my cousin who's expecting her 2nd any day now, but in Sweden, that a few days before her first's due date, they realized he was upside down, and scheduled a c-section.

I'd first try to get the baby to flip around before scheduling a c-section in that situation.

But, apparently, in Sweden, even after one c-section they reccomend trying a natural birth for the 2nd!

I've heard some States (like NY) won't even allow the mom to try natural if she's had a c-section before. Very glad we don't live there!!!!

I was a scheduled c-section because my mom's womb had a thicker wall on one side, and it was supposedly blocking the exit for me, though my brother was a natural birth before that. The 2nd doctor my mom interacted with kind of freaked out when he realized the condition of her womb, but she was calm and simply said, she'd already had a kid without any issues! (My mom is amazing!)

We interacted with a midwife that we really liked but wasn't able to continue with due to it being too far away. She used to work at the hospital, but started her own practice because she got fed up with her having sat with mom's and then the doctor would sweep in and intervene by rushing birth or swap to c-section instead of letting things progress naturally.

She does home births, has a center, and has hospital privileges where she stays as the primary caregiver throughout birth if someone needs to be transferred to the hospital during labor. She's in her 60s, and now has 2-3 more midwives working with her, so they can assist multiple women at a time.

Unfortunately, where we live there are no good midwives.

I have birthing hips. I had 2 naturally. My second was 9lbs 3 oz. He was a big baby. He was posterior and got stuck turning, so transitions was >7.5 hours, total labor was more than 24 hours. I'm sure my doctor would've done a c-section for most women, but knew that I wasn't going there unless the baby's life was imminently at risk.

I shocked the doctor. At about 7 months, she recommended I write a birth plan. I instantly whipped out my 4 page long birth plan with very specific concerns, like no continuous monitoring, a heparin lock instead of a continual IV, a refusal to not drink water, and much more including the fact that I expected to deliver naturally and without any drugs.

There may be a few more women needing c-sections to deliver successfully, but I'm convinced most of the c-sections are for the convenience of mom or the doctor or just defensive medicine. The doctors are so scared to be sued that they do every intervention imaginable, so they can't be accused of not doing everything to save mom and the baby. In the US, that means they do so many interventions that we have about the worst outcomes for women and babies in the whole 1st world.