Hosted chans have no ability to be broadcast after the fact, yeah?

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Hosted channels (HC):

- are used in SBW (obsolete), OBW (not maintained anymore), Valet (still existing)

- are like credit based channels (I am giving you a 1M sats empty channel, to which you can deposit/receive straight away up to 1M sats, then spend these sats as you wish)

- are like renting your node liquidity, straight away

- the capacity of the channel is set by the node provider, in his node

- are never broadcast to the chain. There is no onchain tx involved to open/close these HC, is just between

- are like just an empty glass received from the provider, ready to receive

- user request a HC with no funds necessary. Can deactivate or activate it anytime

- node provider just allocate a HC with a specific amount, with no funds involved.

- user can sweep the funds from a HC into another normal LN channel anytime.

- user can have cryptographic proof of the funds (hard rugpull)

- no need to back these channels, are linked to the wallet seed / nodeID of the user

- between user and provider, there is NO risk of force close because of a stuck HTLC or something like that, because in HC there are no HTLCs. Only from the provider node will be normal HTLCs, fw in the name of the user's node.

- user can have wrapped invoices too from the provider's node

0 conf channels:

- user need to have the funds in onchain to open the channel

- user will not pay the fee for opening channel, but will pay it only when the channel is closed and will pay both fees (opening/closing)

- user can also receive an inbound 0 conf channel, paying a specific fee to the provider and also sending a specific amount of sats that will be pushed on his side.

- user can also receive an empty 0conf channel from the provider, paying a specific fee

- user node will have just a normal channel that is not announced, but with regular HTLCs

- user can have wrapped invoices from the provider

As you can see are similarities but are not the same.

Both methods are very good to onboard new users on LN.

“user need to have the funds in onchain to open the channel”

Trusted funding chans don’t need this

I think the only difference is how the HTLCs work