Also in fiat you give up responsibility to 3rd party trust and sit back and relax (in ignorance), but in bitcoin you have to take a little more effort to responsibly store your money

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Indeed, in way my comment is regarding a lot of misunderstanding about how Bitcoin really works among some Bitcoiners, and I realized that this happens cause they're thinking Bitcoin with fiat mindset.

Yeah in my attempts to orange pill some people, they expect to just be able to buy bitcoin like they buy a stock. One click and forget about it.

When they realize it needs a bit more, they lose attention.