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Remember that we have an entire generation behind us in which a few determined what everyone used. Even if a few overreact now, it's only healthy because they want to understand what's happening & not be dependent again on the hidden decisions of a few. Of course it becomes difficult when people have a say without knowing the underlying issues, but that's part of the process of a real response to decades of abuse.

FernandoTheKoala 7mo ago 💬 1

Care to engage with an undecided dude?

What I don’t understand is why the PR presented 2 years ago to improve the filters was rejected. To me it seems that core has given up on trying to improve filters and are now saying “filters don’t work, miners found a way around it, so might as well open the doors and work on the economic incentives”.

1) There does not seem to be consensus on the fact that filters cannot be improved

2) If filters cannot be improved, then why remove them and exposing ourselves to risk of spam overflow (as core itself is not sure of this, using “should” many times) instead of changing consensus by making them not acceptable?

Chhers in advance

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d0p4 7mo ago

Agreed, as I understand it - & I'm not a tech guy - core wants to keep the spam in a certain area (op_return) to keep it away from the utxo area. At least, that's the official argument.

But you can't say with certainty that this works. Also, the argument of the other side seems conclusive to me that a filter (unlike censorship) does not have to filter 100% to be legitimate.

The fact that core tried to rush the whole thing through by removing the option for any “core mempool” altogether has, in my opinion (post above), quite rightly caused an outcry. I see it as a test of whether non-tech bitcoiners really think for themselves or are just following another “pied piper”. Since bitcoin is such a unique one-shot, even this painstaking dicing out of little things isn't a bad thing. Many are deepening their knowledge & we can all find out how this should work if so many people want to participate as Self-responsible as possible. However, it looks like Core has now considered another proposal in which the option remains. Then you don't have to decide right away :)