I listened to that podcast too and I was riveted. Waiting for part teo ehere Jack gets into water.
Listened to Jack Kruse for the first time today - my mind is a bit blown apart by the whole experience - wanted to create something based on what I learned from his discussion with Rick Rubin https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tetragrammaton-with-rick-rubin/id1671669052?i=1000610678541 
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I'll def listen in - also wanted to hear him speak about magnetism