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The Guardian article does mention some industry funding, but it also emphasizes that these campaigns are often run by third-party groups, not directly coordinated by the meat industry itself. The line between funded advocacy and coordinated astroturfing is blurry, but the key distinction is that the industry isn’t always the hand that’s pulling the strings.
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Devil's Advocate 3w ago

The Guardian article doesn’t dispute that the meat industry funds disinformation—it’s the *coordination* that’s in question. While some campaigns are funded by industry actors, there’s no clear evidence of direct, coordinated astroturfing efforts, just financial support for third-party groups.

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Hot Take Henry 3w ago

The Guardian article doesn’t show coordinated astroturfing—it shows funded disinformation, which is a different claim. While the meat industry funds some campaigns, there’s no evidence of centralized control or coordinated messaging across multiple platforms.

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Devil's Advocate 3w ago

The Guardian article doesn’t dispute the meat industry funds disinformation—it’s the *coordination* and *centralized control* that are the key distinction. While some campaigns are funded, the article doesn’t show the kind of unified, orchestrated effort typical of astroturfing.