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Speaking of Palestine without speaking of Hamas is a bit silly and sounds like an agenda too. Gaza was de facto ruled by an Hamas government.

It is obvious to me that Israel is committing war crimes. But both countries are fuck up places with no notion of "morality" by my personal standards. So I stand with neither and don't see why we should be supporting either. And this isn't a now problem. The fact the West armed Israel to the point they can bully whoever they want is a massive issue. But good luck taking that fire power back.

nontoxicmaxi 2y ago

Did you read nostr:npub1gdu7w6l6w65qhrdeaf6eyywepwe7v7ezqtugsrxy7hl7ypjsvxksd76nak point? If you did and still claim it is silly to speak of Palestinians without speaking of hamas then we simply disagree. If you didn't read it, it better explains your point of view being rather uninformed.

If you think you can be so privileged as to "not take a side" in this situation, I want to remind you that one day you will be asked which side of history you were on. Friendly advice, you don't want to be on the geno-cide.

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ĐaꝞꭵꞧuꞩ.₿ 🟠 2y ago

I don't think you are fully getting my point.

That place has had war between Jews and Muslims for over 2000 years. Both cultures have commited atrocities over that period of time and both are full evil. The problem is not what is happening now.

The problem is that the west armed Israel to the point where they are capable of the oppression they are causing.

I am not making a judgement of the current situation but of the whole conflict.

The argument about the current problem is that Palestine simple can't protect itself.

But that damage is done. There is literally no way out of that whole anymore.

nontoxicmaxi 2y ago

I fail to see how what is happening now is not thé problem.

Anyway, I think I understand where you are going, yet I believe that 'not making a judgment about the current situation' is simply not a luxury any of us can have.

#freepalestine

SovereignArab 2y ago

It’s not a war. This is the colonialist narrative to justify the blatant disregard for international law and human rights. This is a white colonialist battle between the Zionists (disguised and Judaism) and the indigenous people of Palestine.

Palestinians are the occupied and oppressed living in an apartheid state. They have every right to resist their occupiers and oppressors.

Ask yourself, if someone broke into your home, kicked u out, lived in it, locked ur up in the shed and controlled every part of your life, including how much caloric intake and water you need for bare subsistence, and when u try to ask to be let out, peacefully, they beat the shit out of u and kill one of ur family members sitting with u. What would u do if after 16 being locked up, u break free and see them having a bbq? What would u do? Go talk to them?

The analogy above is why Gaza resistance attacked on October 7.

In 2018 they tried peacefully in the “Great March of Return”, and they were shot down by snipers indiscriminately. Footage of this exists and was covered by international media. Don’t trust, verify for yourself.

https://x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1720016079949369828?s=46&t=hB_1ujRRfTGjvAVfy8U8Uw

I’d like to think all of us would be so brave as to fight for our right to self determination. ✊🇵🇸