Ok, do it then. Send me the 100 sats to the SegWit address. It will probably cost you 30 cents to pay a miner. I zapped you the 100 sats and I’ll zap you the fee too if it’s around 3 sats/vByte. All I ask is to demonstrate us all via tx id in a block explorer that that this non-standard tx can get confirmed in the next few blocks at a normal fee rate. Then I’ll give up and admit that filters don’t work.

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I would have to fork and run my own implementation without the dust filter... Which I could do but I'm not going to to prove my point. That would take too much of my time and is not worth the I told you so...

Nice try lying, bud. I saw what you did before you deleted it. You claimed you sent me 100 sats, but in reality, you sent 547 - just one sat above the dust limit to sneak it through. That’s not what I asked for, and you know it. Thanks for proving my point.

Sure, you could run a custom fork without a dust limit if you’re really that determined—but that’s like saying you can break into a house if you try hard enough. Doesn’t mean people stop locking their doors.

https://mempool.space/tx/2c98f8ad5d5bd05df91ed694fe2d9b1af698f35fab0520358868b6b332387e10?mode=details

Before I realized myself. Don't worry... I'm compiling libre right now so I can do it.

Still proving my point. Glad I made you work for it. 🫂

I think the point is if there is demand for something, people will do it... The first person will have an obstacle yes. You are right there. But after the work is done once, it's trivial for anyone else.

You’re right to a degree. If there’s demand for something, people will find a way to do it. There’s a huge incentive to steal: it’s 100% profit. People use all kinds of tools and services to protect their property, but a skilled and determined thief can still get through. Does that stop people from building fences, buying vaults, or paying for home security?

That’s why filters while not perfect are still useful. They’ve never been a silver bullet against spam, in Bitcoin or anywhere else. But with regular upkeep, they’re good enough. What matters most is the will to fight spam, not surrender to it. I’m not trying to block every last piece of spam - just enough to make a difference. The more, the better.

I just don't think it's a good analogy. Since the filters don't stop spam on Bitcoin. They block spam in the memory (RAM) of your PC

If that was true, you’d be able to send that 100 sats without Libre.

libre is Bitcoin though...

Ok…

Actually I might be able to do it on core anyways. I just know the default is gone with libre. Regardless I got it going. Tested and working. Took me half a day most of the time was compiling libre. A little setup.

https://mempool.happytavern.co/tx/d0c43af46553509a0fbd38dacc5dfa6c097aefe6ed75f9985967cb312737e4ca?mode=details

Here is my test tx. Now do you you want me to send one to you to prove I can? Or can we not bloat the utxo set more?

Sub sat fee rate?

Yea. I should have done a bit more... But the mempool is nearly empty anyways so perhaps I'll go through.

It wasn't uncommon to see sub sat fees before ordinals.

I must not have been paying attention then lol

I did end up replacing by fee. Still at ~ 1s/vb to send 100 sats to an address.

lol now that’s kinda funny

I wonder if this person is going to get the point here soon or not?

Just not going to reply to this one?