On a serious note, I always shy away from a fight, but if a fight is forced upon me, I will do anything and everything to win and will put everything into it. Once engaged, I can’t back down and I can never loose.
At an event a few years ago, I met a girl I went to school with, I thought she was too cool to hang around with, but she told me she was too scared of me and avoided me.
I always thought I was a cute puppy, but I’ve since been told by many F&F that I can be very fearsome if engaged.
Js pick fights.
If you’re wrong you need to know - that’s how our brains work.
I got muted by hodlbod today because I resisted his “DeepSeek doesnt answer Tiananmen Square” horseshit.
He’s a P, not a J. Someone judging him is too uncomfortable for him, he wanted to make that observation unopposed but my mind saw it and it was like a red rag to a bull - fuck him, he needs to eat shit for his nonsense and I don’t care the consequences to me, I want to impose reality on him.
INTJs are the Maxis because they don’t care about consequences. They’ll shit in any bowl if they think it the right thing to do, even if that bowl is headed to a grave this afternoon.
INTJs are the best and worst thing to ever happen to Bitcoin. It’s catnip for us, and we become cunts once we go down the rabbithole.
To add nuance, I will initiate a fight if I see corruption or immoral actions.
Also, I tend to be more thoughtful and logical, I agree with your analysis, but I struggle to filter out the emotional and antagonistic tones.
This was the problem I had reading Roger’s book “Hijacking Bitcoin”, he was so full of anger, it hid his arguments, some of which are valid.
>”To add nuance, I will initiate a fight if I see corruption or immoral actions.”
That’s just another red rag to a bull for the Judgemental side. Corruption or immoral actions will be smashed.
Js don’t care about emotional and antagonistic tones; they’ll just attack them. That shit doesnt work on them.
I’m not saying we’re right, we likely aren’t as much as we think we are. I’m just describing the nuance you’re pointing to in real terms from the J side to a P.
Adding my own nuance I guess.
Interesting, thanks.
You've probably explained a lot about the types of fights I've engaged in over the years and the personality traits of the individual with whom I've fought.
It sounds like Roger Ver may well be an INTJ 😂
Yes when you frame J vs P like this a lot more Bitcoin arguments make sense.
The important thing to note is the Js are the ones dragging the Overton window. They are impossible to outnegotiate. They are the real autists. They don’t care what the Ps think, they’ll beat them over the head until they agree or subvert them.
Bitcoin will either fail or meet INTJ standards - the middle ground is unacceptable to Js and at 1/3 they are the minority to reckon with.
Just to add some nuance to your nuance.
I’m guessing the major fights in my life have been fought with INTJ’s primarily because they thought I was soft and they believed they couldn’t loose (as you suggest).
Be careful of making assumptions, those opponents were in error.
Hubris is a weakness, mine is huge, but I am self aware and mostly able to control it.
Also, I'm a passenger now with Bitcoin, but LCDs, the Internet and LoRa are all Overton windows I have moved in my time.
That’s a lot of nuance Mike!
It’s not that INTJs didn’t think they could lose. It’s that when they pick a hill to die on you’re gonna have to go through them and kill them all (metaphorically speaking) or you’ll end up at their position in the end. I don’t know how to describe that phenomenon, but it’s true.
This is where most opponents go wrong. When they plant a flag it’s not their first point of retreat. That’s not how INTJs work - where they plant the flag may seem arbitrary to you but it’s real to them - that’s the line and it’s life or death at the line.
Hubris is not a good accusation against them.
Js are rightly or wrongly, principled AF. They’re not acting from hubris, they can justify their position.
Like me with Hodlbod - he muted me but I had a whole chain of logic behind my comments; he was too weak to hear it. I could be wrong, we’ll never know, but I’m not just gonna let some fucktard cry bald eagle as if that’s a winning move whilst I repost and laugh at him.
Interesting, it is definitely my personal sense of morality that doesn’t allow me to back down.
Perhaps I have a little bit of J in me 😂
