Why does #Signal remove popular features from their app and force users to upgrade against their will?

100% of my family members no longer use Signal after they dropped SMS support. They don't want to use multiple apps, so now we're back to SMS/MMS.

Previously Signal would quietly upgrade connections to use the Signal protocol if both people were on Signal, and it'd protect the messages at rest.

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This has been rehashed over and over and over again hundreds of times, for fuck's sake, let it sms die already.

https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/

You do realize that you just replying to a post that said "this decision to remove SMS support caused all my family members to stop using Signal" with their blog post saying "they are going to remove SMS support" which caused my family members to stop using Signal.

You're really not doing a very good job at defending their decision.

The point is their decision is justified, they had good reasons for doing so. A minor inconvenience to some, sure, but it's for the greater good.

So there's one extra app on your phone. Big deal, we all make a sacrifice in one form or another, quit whining.

You obviously don't understand the impact of their decision. It made people less secure. Period.

You can blame me, even though I still have Signal installed and use it over SMS 100% of the time. So you're pretty misguided there.

You can blame less technical people, but that just makes you an elitest asshole. It doesn't make those people's communications any more secure.

Signal could have done nothing at all and people would still be more secure than they are today. That's not whining, that's justba fact.

SMS has largely been superseded by RCS at least between Android units. That's encrypted by default.

Thanks for the pointer, I was unaware of RCS.

Does Android's Messaging app have any indicator for whether a message or conversation is using SMS or RCS?

I long clicked a message from another Android user and hit info and it says the "Type" is "Text message" which is pretty vague. It seems like it should be RCS based on what I'm reading, at least if they were using the stock Messaging app.

You should check message settings in the Google Messaged app to see if RCS is enabled.

I have com.android.messaging installed, but I don't see anything in the settings about enabling RCS.

Does this only work with the Google Play Services crap? Because I don't have (nor want) that.