i think it was the "secret service" integration that was causing all this trouble

but as for the browser integration when it's not running or not unlocked, and it doesn't automatically run and isn't prompting me to unlock when it is locked, it behaves badly, like this ... i was having this issue for a few days now with reCaptcha (google, btw) and it's nutty how fragmented their system is because i'm at the same time logged in and can check my gmail... but still the captcha comes up

it's just too much of a cognitive burden for me to not have to remember if i don't do it... this is also why it's best practise for logins to expire periodically to make you log them in again and if you have a key safe like keepassxc it means you have to unlock it but ... idk what to say... the quality of these things keeps declining and declining, almost like the people developing them have developed degenerative brain diseases