The previous moments are as important or more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1q7lsos/she_signaled_them_to_pass_by/
I've been wrong about something and I'd like to show you what I've been wrong about. If you do not wish to see violence don't click the link I'll be posting below.
Due to recent discussions about ICE agents in Minneapolis (wearing masks, because that's somehow the worst part of the events... 🙄), I've been poking about the most infamous incident lately: the shooting of the woman driving the Honda pilot.
I broadly believed reports that the woman had hit the agent with her vehicle. If that was the case, it's clear cut self-defense.
However, on further review, this does not seem to be the case. As such, I have changed my opinion based on more facts and deem the actions of the agent to be outside the bounds of self defense and would label this as murder.
The video floating around, and that I've posted here on nostr showing a clear hit has been fairly certainly found to be a fabrication.
Below, you'll find a link to reddit. I know, I know... but it contains a video that is compiled and synced from videos that do seem to be legitimate, and they clearly show malice of forethought by the agent in question as he drew his weapon before the woman had turned her wheels to move her vehicle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q71k0w/all_angles_of_minneapolis_ice_shooting_synched/
As such, the agent broke with all known SOPs regarding firing at a "fleeing vehicle" thus, IMO, is guilty of murder, at least until I am presented evidence otherwise.
That being said, it doesn't change my opinion on:
-Agents wearing face coverings
-ICE is doing a job that is necessary as long as there are national borders and unwelcome, criminal miscreants
-Ending the welfare state will solve nearly all of these issues without the descent into martial law
-Agents of the government operating with carte blanche immunity will only be emboldened to do more of this
So, I was wrong, evidently, about this particular shooting which I will call a murder now. That's fine. (Me being wrong, not the murder.) I'm still open to discussing it and being presented with other evidence on either side. I'd even appreciate it.
Discussion
Reddit alternative link(s)
🔗 troddit:
https://www.troddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1q7lsos/she_signaled_them_to_pass_by/
🔗 redlib.privacyredirect (FIN):
https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1q7lsos/she_signaled_them_to_pass_by/
🔗 redlib.catsarch (US):
https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1q7lsos/she_signaled_them_to_pass_by/
I am not sure this has much bearing on the issue. Who was she waving by? It seems like she stopped when the truck with the agents that got out rolled up. If she was letting fellow agitators go by, that makes sense. It doesn't make sense if she was waving ICE agents by.
Also, She could have backed up a lot more. I've driven a Pilot and it has a not great turning radius, but you can still manage a three point turn in that wide of a road if you use all of it. And also . . . if a car is slowly backing towards you, you can, like, move out of the way. (Like the agent probably should have done. In my after the fact armchair quarterbacking.)
Yes, in general I mean we have a limited context window to base any decisions on. If the previous moments were of heightened tension it could mean something.
In any case, my general view is that online opinion polls cannot produce a valid justice system as their outcome, the medium simply doss not allow it, so any discussion in trying to determine guilt is only ever inflammatory anyway.
That is also fair assessment. It is all a mess.