Human life is a state of perpetual want/dissatisfaction. This is coupled with/related to an endless ability to accommodate to new “normals”, such that as soon as one want is satisfied, a new baseline is created and a new want takes its place.

I see this perpetual accommodation collide with the realities of aging all the time. As our bodies fail, worse than not meeting our ever increasing wants, we actually are forced to regress to states that are inferior to our baseline. Not surprisingly, humans do NOT adjust to this well which explains the high rates of depression among the elderly.

So really, I can summarize human life as follows:

You are born. If you are lucky, you are healthy and your parents meet your basic needs. This becomes your new baseline.

Then you grow throughout your childhood and teenage years and experience an ever growing series of wants - toys, electronics, cars, friendships, romantic relationships, etc. This becomes your new baseline.

Again, in this best case scenario, you reach adulthood, and the parade of ever increasing wants continues: independence, marriage, job, career advancement, house, family, vacations, etc. Again, this becomes your new baseline.

Then, uh oh, you start getting old or you get sick. Suddenly, all of those assumptions and hard wired systems that continuously moved the goalpost forward get violated.

You start losing function. You start losing independence. You start losing relationships. And it just keeps getting worse as time marches on.

Eventually, a critical malfunction occurs within your body and you cease to exist.

Throughout your lifetime, again in the best case scenario that being human has to offer, you will have experienced no peace, an abundance of dissatisfaction punctuated by only brief, ever fleeting moments of satisfaction, followed by the slow and miserable decline towards your inevitable death.

Put differently, childbirth, to me, is analogous to condemning someone to a life sentence of misery and suffering (with maybe a handful of brief pleasant experiences), followed by a death sentence.

I cannot imagine doing that to another person.

#grownostr

#thinkdangerously

#getoffended

#childfree

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It seems like you don't believe people can age gracefully.

It depends on what you mean. Some people will age slower than others but that doesn’t necessarily make the process of declining any easier. In fact it may make it harder.

The first time a human experiences a permanent disability it is nearly universally devastating, and it is an experience almost all of us will have at some point.

What I mean by aging gracefully is to accept that getting older is part of life. To be grateful for the good experiences in the past and to accept that you have to make sacrifices. You loose more and more abilities, but you get richer in experiences and wisdom. I don't think it is possible to maintain a positive attitude no matter what life throws at you. But I also don't see it as inevitable to adopt a pessimistic view on life.

Ah I think I see what you mean.

But should we be deciding this for others since it amounts to our own arbitrary assessment of the value of human life?

If I take your optimistic view, what guarantee do I have that my kid will have the same outlook?

Seems unfair to impose my potentially flawed judgment/preferences on someone else who has no say in the matter.

That's right, I don't know how my children will go through life. I hope they will have this positive outlook and I will do my best to help them. But in the end I set them on a journey into the unknown, believing that it will be a good one.

One could argue that those “wants are what propels all of existence- whether that’s human, animal, plant, etc. Everything has a life cycle and that finiteness is what makes it special. Matter is transmuted into other forms, and life keeps evolving.

I guess it’s all your perspective, whether you think this one life is all there is or whether spirit continues on..