I dont disagree with this in that hosting solutions is a relatively small optimization in the overall workflow when we have larger fish to fry. But its worth a shot to set one thing in motion if it doesn't take away from other efforts elsewhere.

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Everything takes away from something, there is no free lunch

Any task no matter how simple has a fixed cost (tracking it, context switch, ...)

Im not talking in economic terms. I simply mean we can build shit faster if we all do it together at once knowing its eventually needed

I guess that is true, but work like service/client integrations take time from both sides. Implementing podcasts in Nostr.build currently would have to take away time from more important improvements, while benefiting less users than those improvements

Yeah im not arguing for you to drop more important priorities and honestly I dont think nostr.build should implement podcasts, just support whats required on hosting. The rest is just fluff. Do one thing and do it well.

You guys host basically all of nostra media. Keep focusing on that. Bare min to get demu really going on nostr just needs you to support essential features like the ability to host audio files and rss files (which it does already)

My point in all this here is to show you guys theres a lot already in motion and the massive potential/untapped market. Your product sits in one of the essential corners of this ecosystem. Just heads up and house call to see if theres anything you guys can do to move this forward with us. If yes, cool, if not, maybe later. All good, this is freedom tech.

fwiw, there is already support for uploading MP3, (and for paid) WAV and FLAC, and the API can be easily used for thid

for reencoding audio, this can be done in browser efficiently, and this way creator can pick the lowest bitrate with good quality for their specific usecase

Definitely not for nothing.

As nostr integrated demu apps start shipping, I hope they look at the features nostr.build already offer and integrate it too

Depends from what perspective. You working on hosting doesnt materially take away from Derek working on streaming.

Many similar such efforts have been set in motion today. Remember the early days of nostr apps cranking out seemingly daily? Back when we were all bullshit on pablo?

I feel a similar bubbling beginning today in the demu space on nostr.

Currently hosting really isn't an issue in PC 2.0 and if no one wants to use Nostr then they won't be interested in Nostr.build either. We're not going full Nostr and I don't know how much we will add. The lightning wallet solutions Nostr provides are what we're after currently because that's what we need but building solutions for people to host content and build RSS feeds so apps can surface that content were game for.

I'm also not that familiar with Nostr.build but if we need a hosting service you'll be top of mind.

I think most people just host their media on their websites currently.

Podcasters are used to hosting their own stuff either on their own or using a hosting provider so that's all just transferred over to the music stuff as well since music is just an extension of PC 2.0.

People around here just stopped using Spotifys Anchor hosting for their podcast within the last years btw.

I think its important to recognize theres two important goals that are sort of intertwined as one begets the other so even if we have positive movement in only one direction, a high tide floats all boats.

1. Podcasters need an upgrade to the current feature set which nostr tech may be able to provide (relays, identity etc) while maintaining backwards compatibility

2. Nostriches need to start getting into demu! But the current implementations are largely incompatible with what nostr is using and moving towards (keysend vs lnurl/nwc).

While podcasters may not need a change in hosting solution, having a nostr native product thats already seamlessly integrated into nostr would be massive for achieving #2. Just like Dell computers shipped with windows, amythest and most other clients ship with nostr.build baked in as the default.

If we drive nostr adoption of demu, that is a huge untapped market thats already mostly on board and dont know it. The podcasters will see theres movement there and that its worth looking into again, driving more adoption or re-adoption. And that starts the flywheel.