you guys realise that SVB was/is literally punting around in liquid securities markets, right? this is the insanity that fiat brings to “banking” - commercial banks have to fail because raising the everything price hits their book of mortgage backed securities (I can’t even believe I’m typing this it’s so stupid) because there isn’t enough of a yield in making *actual loans* and the maturity mismatch is too scary anyway. SVB is FTX, just with mildly less stupid and fraudulent shitcoins - but stupid and fraudulent shitcoins nonetheless. so is every other “bank”.

fuck me sideways. it causes me acute emotional distress that people think this is normal and don’t see any problem with it. we live in such a clown world 🤦‍♀️

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Amen

The problem isn’t that people think is normal, the problem is that people don’t think, period. Because they don’t know anything about the financial system.

How many people in the American population would understand what you just wrote ? Maybe 5% and I’m being generous.

Very generous.

It’s shocking how few people are even aware of fractional reserve banking

SVB hasn't actually lost money yet though. Basically they locked it up in assets that they are now unable to sell. But over the next ~10 years there's good reason to expect they'll get every cent back.

That's different from shitcoins where the losses have already happened.

there is clearly a material difference, yes, and, to be fair, I did say it’s not *as* stupid and not *as* fraudulent.

but closer inspection doesn’t paint a much rosier picture: there is no reason to believe these assets will retain their original value, against which they were leveraged on an already razor-thin equity buffer. SVB’s book in liquid securities is marked to market, not to expected future cash flow, so we really don’t know how much money they’ll recover. which of course ties right back to the absurdity of fiat because the original value obviously reflected their monetisation on account of artificially low rates. will that return? I have no idea, but it’s hardly prudent capital allocation to blindly assume the answer is yes.

also, ~10 years is an obscene amount of time to have hundreds of billions of dollars locked up in bankruptcy proceedings. *especially* the coming 10 years, over which I would strongly wager the dollar face value will go to shit in real terms (to whit, see above). that’s before even needing to invoke time value of money - it’s not even that there might be better assets with better return profiles to swap into in markets you used to think were liquid. it’s that you just don’t want these ones at all. it has turned into a 10-year zero-coupon, illiquid fixed nominal return. ew.

so in some sense you are right on a technicality. but in another, this is the absurdity of fiat banking in a nutshell: the losses *have always already happened* - they just aren’t evenly distributed.

Unfortunately most folks don’t bother to learn what money actually is….I work in finance and am surrounded by a bunch of NPCs who still believe in this unsustainable debt based system

For me the problem with the system is not about sustainability, it's about slavery by design and people not calling it out. Hopelessness for the masses, with people chasing their own tails, as there is more debt than there is money. "Slavery by design."

Someone time travelling into the future and arriving today unaware of how the financial systems works could go into a new car depot and see all the amazing technology on display and think wow life must be really great now hey? But if they travelled knowing the economic system and rules ahead of time they should be entirely unsurprised by learning after tasting some of the technology available that the majority of an average 'developed' country's population are hopelessly unable to own a house, a car and raise a family without record level of debilitating debt and peace of mind

It does make me wonder how the average working person can afford to stack sats when they've already a financial gun to their heads with no slack