Yes, great response.

The only capitalism I've ever known is centralized, no different than socialism and communism, and never existed without slavery, exploitation, and coercion of some sort. Even thru today.

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Capitalism is the idea that capital is what drives the economy.

Now define capital...

Capital is anything that allows you to do stuff. Money is usually seen as capital, though IMO its debatable, but a factory or a tractor is always capital. Without certain equipment, your ability to do things is hindered, maybe entirely stopped. Is a bank or corporation necessary to build a house? They want you to think do, but they aren't. The hammer you use is capital ; the money used to buy the hammer is capital, but money sitting unused is not capital.

The trick they play on us is making us believe that money printed and loaned is capital. It is not. The things it buys is capital, and the printers are thieves, because the producer of the hammer didn't know the money was worth less than before.

This is why I say that banks and capitalism cannot coexist. Capitalism asserts that capital is the basis of growth. Theft is destruction, so it reduces growth.

Capitalism is not commerce and trade.

Capitalism refers to who owns the means of production.

Before capitalism things were either owned by nobility or by the people collectively.

Capitalism only changed who owns what.

We had money for thousands of years before capitalism.

That's my experience as well, but it doesn't change the meaning of capitalism. Stopping exploitation is a good goal - what goals could come before that? But you will always be ineffective if you use words wrong. The people you need on your side stop listening the moment you use that word wrong. Your enemies have programmed you to live in illusion. Where did you learn to use that word wrong? Think. The capitalists making movies and media taught you to hate capitalism. That was on purpose. Hating capitalism is actually just another way you're being exploited.

I get you but you assume incorrectly, and go on and on like AI. I don't hate capitalism. I am at odds with centralized systems of governance, exploitation, coercion and slavery.

Funny how free market capitalism is no longer a thing.

Technically free market capitalism is an oxymoron, it never existed.