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Wait, there'll always be a job needing cleaners and suchlike. A fulltime cleaner should be able to have a liveable wage. That's what minimum wage is for.

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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 2y ago

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Companies arent charities.. if you dont provide the value of minimum wage no company should be obligated to donate charity to you so you can have a living wage...

For starters, no we wont "always be a job needing cleaners"... we are very quickly getting to a world where low-skill labour will not exist in a few decades

Two I have no issue with jobs existing that dont provide enough value to make a living wage. Those jobs should be stepping stone jobs.. they should be done as an extra job on the side, or by children who dont have skills yet, or to temporarily suppliment welfare while one goes to school... A no-skill job should **never** be a life long career, and the government should provide the means to make sure that is the case fairly by giving the means to obtain better skills.

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78987f61... 2y ago

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There are plenty of people who will never have the intellectual capacity to grow beyond a cleaner's job. You're kinda telling them to fuck off here. A no-skill job will always be required somewhere. And I highly doubt they can all be automated. There'll still be plenty of those kind of jobs in a few decades. You're kinda out of touch there.

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Jim Vernon 2y ago

nostr:npub1kpwlxpzkxfmuxjmzc2wp3rf9vjg0sgydmlhsnrgqr3maf59h86qqdxxzz4 nostr:npub1ukcz3c3ek9ugnmrj37cjm2q9gsaqss5j9dqwpqmx0tgkzudsseqqcp40jn But if automation gets rid of the need for a lot of labor, as you said, why then should people be expected to have jobs at all? Seems like we should welcome the day when people can simply live and enjoy life without spending most of their waking hours laboring, especially laboring to put a few extra dollars in someone else's bank account.