Until you want to enforce access control or moderation, then you're in rube goldberg land

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For reliable access control and moderation, you need your own relay.

I love those incentives.

How do you manage that relay? 👉 With a key pair.

How do create multiple groups on that same relay, without having the NIP-29 mess? 👉 With key pairs.

How can you try out groups/communities without having to run a relay? 👉 With a key pair.

Or MLS, which granted is hard to implement, but fits this problem like a T

Yes, MLS may yet save us from this madness