Native Americans were savages, constantly at war with eachother, who practiced ritual sacrifice and slavery. It's a very good thing they were defeated.

I'm unaware of Hawaiians story but prized lands tend to be taken by modern forces and that is an old story.

Africans practice slavery still, have always, and no amount of Western influence has inspired those peoples to raise themselves up. Still, monetary colonialism via Fiat is a scourge that probably prevents any such upwards mobility and will be destroyed by #Bitcoin, granting these peoples a better chance as self determination.

The Crusades was good.

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Africans have an avg iq of 75

And?

Also, the IQ tests were designed by Westerners with a Westernized world-view, Westernized education and incorporate Westernized cognitive models.

If you have ever traveled, you will know that different peoples in different parts of the world have very very different ways of processing information and life.

Also, IQ tests usually largely ignore emotional and social intelligence, which are both valid and necessary for a holistically healthy society and quality of life, and are both greatly lacking in Western societies as a whole (yes, a big generalization, just making the point that IQ as we know it is no good standard of any kind).

You can cope with facts however you’d like, but Africa is still essentially mud huts and beautiful cities turn to dust as soon a white people leave.

Everywhere blacks are the majority population turns into a dangerous and disgusting shithole.

IQ is real, and that “different processing of information” is simply different levels of IQ manifest.

“Cope” lol.

Have you ever been there? If so, you will have met some of the the kindest, most welcoming and creative people on earth.

Denying the devastating effects of colonialism is denying reality, regardless of how you frame it. Ignoring the different worldviews people elsewhere have, and expecting them to fit into a Western mold and way of life that you might think is superior

only highlights your ethnocentrism.

I am not denying IQ is *one measure* of *some types* of intelligence. Are you claiming it is the *only* type that matters?

And that it trumps all else?

Some of the most ‘high IQ’ people have committed the most brutal acts against others.

Yeah, it’s all white peoples fault that you can’t maintain infrastructure

⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ that’s called cope buddy

I never said that lol

Yes, you did:

“Denying the devastating effects of colonialism is denying reality.”

Colonialism brought you civilization. The overwhelmingly vast majority of your people can not sustain it or even understand it.

And if you consider any city in the US as being “beautiful” or “maintained”, then I’m not sure of the last time you were in one

You’re right.

Guess what American cities are mostly made of…. Africans 🤣🤣🤣

Ok lol now you are getting delusional. Have a great day.

Here are the top 10 most dangerous cities in America and their black (African) populations, funny how the less black the city is the less dangerous it becomes.

Inconvenient truths.

Lol no, convenient lies.

The generalization and lack of nuance in these statements astonishes me. I have seen you make equally broad statements before so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

The crusades were not good.

And if Jesus would have thought they were good then He was not who you think He was.

Native Americans were not “savages” any more than Europeans were. Both sometimes committed savage acts.

The European wars and conflicts during the 15-1900s were often far more brutal and widespread than any Native American wars.

Ritual sacrifice was practiced in Europe at times in history, and the witch-burning (burning of wise women herbalists and midwives) was its own form of insanely misguided ritual sacrifice.

Would Jesus have supported this or the uncountable other brutal acts committed in his name during the crusades?

Hawaiians had been united through war under King Kamehameha and were largely living peacefully and with relatively very little conflict (even if you as a pure Christian would not approve of all of their ways, but is that not the point you were making at the very beginning of this thread, that creation itself has brought forth, different cultures and ethnicities?). Between the whalers, the missionaries, the sandalwood cutters (decimating the forests) and the plantation owners (decimating and poisoning everything else), the overall genocide wiped out 80% of the population. Is that what Jesus would have wanted?

While Africans may have been slave traders already, once the Europeans arrived the trade exploded. As my Mama always said, “Two wrongs don’t make a right”. I somehow doubt Jesus would have disagreed with her on that.

While war seems inevitable for an unevolved species such as ours, it doesn’t mean we must continue condoning or supporting it.

And using power over others, whether physical, emotional or mental only shows a lack of respect for the sovereignty of the other. Of course, when someone is being threatened or hurt, then protective use of force is necessary, but I am referring above to unprovoked use of power-over.

Jesus himself is said to have said:

"Do to others as you would have them do to you." (Luke 6:31)

"For all who take the sword will perish by the sword." (Matthew 26:52)

To this day I fail to comprehend how Christians can support violence in Jesus’ name.

What church do you go to?