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Today I have been thinking about the future and some demographic challenges facing the world.

I now have a theory that falling birth rates are not connected to rising income / wealth, but are instead a consequence of rising life expectancies.

This is a statistical simplification and so any personal feelings or individual experience is irrelevant in this larger context.

Here goes…

Life expectancy fits the data much better than wealth. It’s why Japan went through japanification long before the richer USA.

I propose that many people do not really desire children until they consider their own mortality or frailty. Once your current age forces you to think about your own mortality you immediately think about children and who will be around you near the end. This is a natural thing to think about. It doesn’t really go away.

At the population level, as life expectancy has increased from 50 to 80, people have greatly delayed this train of thought until much later in life. For most people in the modern world, they never actually consider this train of thought during their years of high fertility.

This then assumes that people today mostly have children as an accident of sex, or because of the (significant) momentum of cultural norms and not really as a functional decision of self interest.

Birth rates aren’t going to 0.00 because there are lots of reasons to have children, but I think the fact that most couples of child bearing age can rationally assume they will live another 50+ years, they are not thinking about their mortality or frailty.

As a result… birth rates are falling everywhere, or rather everywhere that has a life expectancy that is double the female age of fertility.

I think this is a much more satisfying hypothesis about falling birth rates than the idea that richer people choose to not have children. That doesn’t really stack up for household income distributions within a society with a particular life expectancy.

And yes, I understand that life expectancy is also correlated strongly with income and wealth.

I just this this hypothesis is a more realistic fit. What do others think?

I understand this will be an emotional topic for some and not everyone is fortunate enough to realise their preferred choice regarding children. I think most couples have some level of compromise between partners and obviously some couples are just painfully unlucky.

Interesting view indeed. But I would argue that the cost of raising children has increased exponentially as well along with life expectancy. Hypothetically, if cost is low then it doesn’t matter if having a child is an accident or a plan.

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Has it though?

I don’t think having children is any more expensive?

Food, clothing, opportunity has never been more abundant. Fewer kids today going without essentials.

I have kids, what are these exponential costs?

When people say it’s more expensive, what they really mean is that the burden of fiat and debt slavery has cost them so much time that they couldn’t properly raise multiple children.

Having time for children is the most important cost of being a parent, and with both the man and woman being essentially required to work 40 hours to keep the fiat wheels turning, time has become very scarce.

If you’re frugal and can have one parent stay at home, having many children is still 100% as possible as it ever was. Someone just needs to be able to commit their time⚡️

You are lucky if you don’t feel the cost has increased. I have children as well. The cost compared to my parents’ time is undoubtedly more expensive. The standard of living has changed, food and clothing is no longer the bare minimum to raise child. Your argument is like brick and mortar are abundant nowadays how can build a new house more expensive (if we don’t consider inflation)? You cannot build a 1950 house today, build code has changed, what people need has changed, you can’t burn wood in fireplace in most cities, you can not simply dig a well without pulling permit etc. etc.

You make strong points.