Nostr Web Client

PWA sucks. Forced updates, no decentralisation, reliant on a browser to use, just a patch for those who didn't create an APK.

Jumble is a great client, and indeed the PWA is very good, but it's not ideal. I prefer to use it on the PC rather than on my phone as a nice client, but not a definitive one.

Cody 4mo ago 💬 1

There are plenty of choices, and everyone can pick what they like. I also mostly just use Jumble on desktop, haha.

But I don’t really see the points you listed as disadvantages of PWAs:

- Forced updates mean an early client can quickly fix bugs and ship features. You might be worried about “malicious” updates, but does an APK really solve that? How many people actually review Amethyst’s source code, and even if they do, how many compile it themselves?

- Jumble is a purely static site and could even be deployed directly on nostr via https://nsite.run/ . If needed, I’m sure someone would mirror it, it’s open source after all. Isn’t that actually more decentralized than an APK?

- Depending on the browser means Jumble runs anywhere a browser exists. An APK, in contrast, depends on Android and doesn’t easily run elsewhere.

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Discussion

Sirius 4mo ago 💬 3

Zapstore signing is something that’s better in apk’s. PWAs rely on SSL certs that live on CDN or server: easier to hack when the code itself is not signed.

Sirius 4mo ago 💬 2

It's easy to wrap browser apps with tauri btw. Iris is on Zapstore, and I might try my luck with play store and ios app store one day. Why not have both options. I've grown a bit weary of cloudflare.

Cody 4mo ago

That’s a good idea.

Cody 4mo ago 💬 1

I’ve thought about packaging it with Tauri / Electron, but then I can’t resist bundling a local relay inside, haha. And that’s when I start procrastinating.

idsera 4mo ago

Please pack it. People like to install things.

Cody 4mo ago

The real security is in keeping your keys safe and not signing events blindly, haha. When I use Jumble, every event (except AUTH) asks for my consent before it’s signed. I know that with this configuration, many apps become almost unusable.

daniele 4mo ago

Yes, many apps assume that as soon they detect an extension the sign is immediate, and miserably fall with some sort of timeout if the user take some seconds to approve (or didn't approve at all).