Shit I almost forgot it’s #FREEDOMTECHFRIDAY tomorrow. Last week’s stream was epic. Can we top it this week?

As always, get your topic suggestions and Freedom Tech questions in.

LIVE at 9AM EST / 2PM GMT on Nostr, X and YT.

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What is bitchat, what is the tech behind and what problem does/will it solve

Is it live at 9AM EST / 2PM GMT or 9AM EDT / 2PM BST? Daylight savings is in effect.

The latter.

Do the mutual aid communities intersect with freedom tech, and if so, how?

Also, are these recorded or is it a "you had to be there" stream?

Not sure what mutual aid even is!?

You can catch the shows afterwards on the nostr:nprofile1qqsfvzdsjdzsm4lq47ecjcv6ekhju6sddqtujd2j7wg3upd4ptnnu0gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7xkv6hy YT, X or Podcast feed.

How anonymous is #Nostr?

βœ… Non-kyc key

βœ… Cryptographically signed notes

βœ… Decentralised relays

But if someone has your key associated to you, how much exposure of your IP and other tracking / tracing could there be to the relay providers or to external eyes?

Listened to the recording and I think y'all hit the nail on the head when you said the biggest risk to #FreedomTech is centralization. It's not just about lightning wallets, or overtly evil platforms like Google.

Take a look at your list of the best in class. A centralized notes app, a centralized chat app, etc. Sure, they're better than using GDocs or SMS, but they have a single point of failure (or surveillance).

I've seen a lot of people in infosec moving away from Signal over the past few years. The list of reasons is long:

- being a centralized chat service, run in the USA

- requiring and storing your phone number even after they implemented usernames

- making it difficult to have multiple accounts

- causing most of the non-privacy people to leave by pulling SMS support (because they can't use it as their texting app)

- blocking Signal-FOSS from being in the stock F-Droid repos

- not allowing different implementations of the client to connect to their servers

- waiting years to fix the known ussue of Signal desktop issue where the key were stored in plain text, and only doing it when a researcher with enough followers made a stink about it

- still not completely fixing that encryptoon issue (the key is stored in the keychain, which any other app can request and obtain) outside of macOS (where the OS has app-level restrictions and not just user-level restrictions)

- any person you've chatted with can get your phone number from your username by default (although, it does take some time & effort)

- the server not being fuly open source, and what source is published doesn't seem to run for those who have attempted to run their own Signal server

Any of these may be forgivable on their own, but they've added up to the point where people in infosec moving away, and they are usually the bellweather for things like this.

They're largely flocking to Matrix. It's the same encryption algorithm as Signal, but decentralized. It allows multiple accounts, you don't even need to give an email address to sign up on some servers, let alone a phone number. It has different clients, and I don't mean multiple forks of the same client. If one isn'polished enough for your taste, switch to another one.

Nothing is absolutely perfect, but it's a significant upgrade from Signal, which is already well above many other messaging apps.

As a lightning node runner myself, I πŸ’― understand the problems of self-hosting.

What do you think would make it more accessible?

Alby's solution of just paying someone to host your node for you? (Doesn't have to be Alby, others could get into that same business and provide some competition)

Self-hosting platforns like start9, yunohost, and other to lower the technical burden?

Do you feel mobile apps like Zeus play a part here? To be clear, I'm referring to the lightning node running directly on your phone. It can't receive payments unless the app is open, and doesn't have a lightning address, but it frequently works well for in-person payments and is entirely self-custody.

And beyond the technical woes of hosting, and technical/operational issues of falling behind on chain data and the like, there are also the headaches of channel management. Maybe that one is not a big deal as long as you only open channels to big clearing houses. I open channels with plebs, and I see channels go inactive sometimes. So far I've always been able to poke the operator and get it sorted, but my point is that most people going to be looking for a payment system, not a hobby.

I'd love to hear your take on these things. I have my own ideas, but they all have various drawbacks. Plus, I haven't personally tried, alby hub or start9 (yet), so I don't have strong opinions about those.

Thanks for the Q. Added to our list for the coming weeks