nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z I mean this sincerely and with no disrespect, but have you ever, um, seen another #nostr client before?

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Emoji spam. 💯

I like this UI, it is not easy to render reactions/zaps/messages inline without a modal/tabbed interface.

Btw, I appreciate the not conventional choice.

I feel like the reactions take up a lot of unnecessary space and should maybe be collapsed into a consolidated view that can be expanded to see them all if the user wants to. The stats would feel more natural below the post than above it.

Also, there is no space between the pfp images so it just looks very busy and cluttered. The badge on the pfp has a lot going on and could be simplified.

And there is also not enough space between the text and the image in the actual post.

This is the fundamental difference between Android and iOS, just as between Linux and Windows or macOS: maximum utility vs minimalist design.

Personally, that UI makes my eyes bleed, but this is why I choose Apple.

How it feels to an iOS user attempting to use any Android app.

https://nostr.build/av/27cb41a914a2097d2bb9b358003d202a600826ccf2fe3c52a38d31349ada5190.mp4

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Hahahah great!

Nah. More like this. But it is still a bike 😆

I agree that a collapse option would be good to filter out the reactions and keep only the replies.

Sure, the UI can be improved with some touches, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good :)

Btw, nice suggestions.

> I feel like the reactions take up a lot of unnecessary space

They are designed to be a little party about your post. In other apps, reactions are relegated as useless. And because of their UI choice, they definitely are useless. We are trying to bring meaningful reactions back. This means there should be an easy way to immediately extract meaning from the reaction set. The current interface is not perfect by any means (especially because this is mostly an old design updated constantly over the weeks), but that's what we are going for.

> should maybe be collapsed into a consolidated view that can be expanded to see them all if the user wants to.

That already happens in the posts in the regular feed. When users come to notifications, they want to see everything that has nappened. Hiding things that happened because we couldn't find a nicer UI yet is not a good idea.

> The stats would feel more natural below the post than above it.

I agree. But this is "new". We changed some of the reaction design in the feed and also added inline replies at the top which should have inverted the reaction set look in notifications. We will get there some day.

> there is no space between the pfp images so it just looks very busy and cluttered.

I tested adding some spaces, but it made the experience in low-end phones (which already don't have much space) a lot worse. So, we reverted until we get a better idea.

> The badge on the pfp has a lot going on and could be simplified.

On this image, it's just the profile picture and the badge uptop so you know which ones are the ones you follow. I am not sure why it is a "lot"

> And there is also not enough space between the text and the image in the actual post.

That is a problem between clients. In your post, there is no new line between "I’ve been missing you. " and the image url. So, it should be as close to the text as possible to correctly represent what the author wanted. Adding space is not what the author wanted to do.

I like how rabbit does this

Yep, it's similar to how GitHub and Reddit do it. But in Nostr, reaction counts are less interesting because anyone can create an account, inflate numbers and change a reader's perception of how the post was received.

In Nostr, it is more important to know which person provided those reactions than in apps that centralize identity.

take it or leave it,

mostly just selfish practice of expressing a quick gui idea in figma

Do you count just anyone in any list you follow or do you want to break it down per list?

maybe a drop down or a input field to override contact list with alternative nostr list (I’d like this more places in nostr, id follow more people on my contact list generally)

This ^

I hear a lot of compatibility excuses and developer opinions and not an ounce of user empathy in this response.

Sorry, I just tried to provide feedback on why things are the way they are.

Here’s the same note displayed in 4 clients: Damus, Primal, Iris, Amethyst

You can see that Amethyst is the only one that doesn’t leave space between the text and the image. This should not depend on whether the user or the client added a line break between the text and the image URL. It’s a client UI decision to determine how to display this.

If there is a new line before the url, do they show an empty space, then? Or do they just disregard how the author wrote?

Are you asking me to do your testing? Before most clients had image upload features, we just pasted in the URL. There was no way to know how the image would display in the post. Some users added a space, others added a line break. It was trial and error. But most clients have figured out the best way to do this so the post displays consistently on as many clients as possible. When I post an image without using the uploader, I simply add a single space before the URL. Every client understands how to display this except apparently Amethyst.

I was just asking because you seem to care about this detail more than everyone else. But if you are offended by it, I am sorry. I won't ask you anything anymore.

Because details matter! I’m sorry you can’t be bothered to listen to the users. Clearly your opinions are far more important.

Dude... I am here listening to you. I am not bothered at all. Why are you so angry at me all the time?

If I came off as angry, that’s my fault. I am actually just passionate about good UX and it may just be the fact that there have been many instances in which I observed that Amethyst was not causing issues not only for its own users but for other non-Amethyst users as well, such as displaying content in a way that other clients couldn’t render, and they showed up as blank posts. Nostr is young and we are experiencing a wave of new users who are flocking here, and probably the majority of them will be Android users. We should choose to give them the best experience possible, and one that translates across different platforms and apps. I appreciate everything the development and design community here has been building, and that includes you. So if you’re open to UX feedback from someone like me who just downloaded your app for the first time and is comparing it to other apps that I have been using for the past several months, I am more than happy to provide it.

I can see that you like good UX. I just wished you just asked for... say... to increase the space between the text and the image directly... instead of this snarky post:

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And since you like good UX, you should know that this is not how you ask for improvements from anyone, anywhere. You ask for empathy, but you didn't offer any of it to those building the product.

That post could have simply been: "Hey Vitor, can we increase the distance here between the text and the image?". That would have created a more productive conversation. But no, your wording wanted to shame me and the "product". Basically a "look how bad this is!". Maybe I deserve it, maybe I don't. But that language goes against what you are preaching all along.

On a last note, Amethyst is here it push for everything, all at once, and move forward as fast as we can. That comes at some UX expense, as you realized, and that's ok. With more help, we can probably offer more UX improvements, but at this time, the majority of the development is still on new features. We are still on version 0.x for a reason. We are not even half the way of an actual product yet.

Points taken. I have been known to snark. But I will endeavor to provide constructive feedback now that I have an actual device to test Android clients on.

BTW I give nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s a lot of shit too. It’s nothing personal! 🫂

Yep, that's the thing I was trying to avoid. I don't like disregarding what authors do, even in these small details. If people add a line, there should be a line there. But I will do some research to see how to improve it.

#Amethyst also shows broadcasted relays, has a better rounded border, reads user name, etc

And the pic size is better proportioned to other elements