if users say "i wannan this relays" and client uses them and publishes duly

then this app is dogshit

seriously, "gossip model" is the most retarded shit and has retarded the client development because what the fuck, i publish a relay list, and then i go to another client and it goes GOSSIP fuck you

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i should point out that this is a big problem for relay developers

how do you find a client that is gonna actually test your relay if it's running off on its own choosing arbitrary random, probably dev chosen relays?

uh, no. respect the 65 bro fucks sake

noStrudel is not using a gossip model yet. but its something I would like to implement. however whats been keeping me from implementing it is I need to find a way to ask the users permission (or make them aware) that the client is going to connect to random relays to get the feed.

Its also the reason I have not implemented NIP-42 yet. because I don't want to sign auth requests for the user in the background without at least making them aware first

its nice to encounter developers with humility and integrity. thanks.

What is the problem of using arbitrary random or dev chosen relays? That's good.

I've chosen specific relays, for good reason.