We agree stacking Sats isn’t enough.

I guess it could be called an evolution, my contention is that bridge can’t lead to a place where today’s systems are simply the status quo with Bitcoin sprinkled on top.

The state isn’t going to wither away. This gigantic bureaucracy won’t just dislodge itself because Bitcoin exists and Bitcoin won’t work in this giant bureaucracy.

Central banks gotta go. Which means banks have to be completely rethought which means all of modern finance is in the bin.

Governments aren’t fit for purpose - the idea we send some representatives to a city to vote on our behalf a few days a year is a laughable joke and leads to what we have today.

The idea they control everything from health to education to social welfare to infrastructure to laws to bin collections to libraries etc - that’s all gotta go.

That has implications. We just made 50%+ of the population redundant; they’re not going to sit by idly with banking/finance/real estate/bureaucracy/education/healthcare/etc stripped out of central planning/funding - they’re going to revolt without a positive alternative to opt in to.

Nation states are a starting point for an easy transition but likely need to devolve into regional or community jurisdictions.

Rules without rulers doesn’t work with a world full of dependents.

Every major movement of the past 500 years had a comprehensive view of the world encompassing not just economics (Bitcoin) but politics, society, culture, religion and law.

Bitcoin alone isn’t enough. We would simply be repeating the Goldbugs mistakes of telling the world about a better monetary system without showing them a better way to live.

People won’t exit fiat unless they can see and feel what a better system is and we haven’t built that yet.

To me, that’s what separation of money and state really means - you abolish the state by building something in its place that people prefer and actively seek out, not by simply telling them their money sucks.

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And actually - it's not only about separating money from the state. Bitcoin helps us to separate money from the control of man. Which is what monetary freedom did prior to Bitcoin - as long as people fought for it. When we stopped fighting, fiat hell was brought upon us. It had more to do with this understanding and the morals than it had to do with the monetary technologies themselves.

This is why I love #nostr

We can each put a whole argument forward without arbitrary character limits defined by our subscription level, articulate our differences, find common ground, agree where we agree and disagree where we disagree but actually flesh that out with no-one moderating language or opinions or views and as such we can both make points in good faith and receive them in kind. We opt in to that much like Bitcoin.

This protocol is going to be central for building the alternative for those very reasons.

The digital world is where we will organise and communicate these ideas - meatspace will forever be where we live these ethos but it can be shaped by our unintermediated ability to talk and bring those ideas to life even on opposite sides of the world.

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Well said!