I agree that less government would be great. But change doesn't happen within. I don't see trump and elon as outsiders. They are are just part of that game. The new game is grassroots and permissionless. I don't care what they do to he honest. I guess we will see what happens.

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I don't think they are outsiders, either. I think they've been brought in by their bosses to ensure that USA inc. doesn't collapse. They will put in place reforms that will prevent this collapse, and in certain respects, those reforms (i.e. end of corruption and theft) will benefit the people more than a collapse.

I still think it will take a revolution to throw off whoever is pulling their strings.

I am hooefull they are making a positive change in that arena.