Yeah, thats one of the rhetorical problems liberty minded people have an issue with when communicating the philosophy.

Its so much easier to talk about The State. As opposed to saying the individuals that make up The State that think they're better than the constituents at assessing what they need on a day to day basis.

Its a whole mouthful makes a conversation into a lecture

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Indeed. Many also treat the State as a mythic devourer beast, regardless of who currently controls.