Chapter and verse?
In John 14 and again in John 15, Jesus says to ask the Father in Jesus' name...
Praying to mere mortals so that they may go ask Yahweh on your behalf is a convoluted, unnecessary game of telephone, and borderlines on idolatry.
Jesus came to, among other things, become the church's final High Priest, meaning He intercedes on our behalf.
Asking a deceased non divine being to intercede on your behalf to a divine being that is paraphrased to have said "just talk to my son, thats all you need" - is just beyond me.
ok, ill stop praying for you then 😉
If Jesus is willing and able to hear our prayers, what is the point in asking other Christians to pray for us? Seems pointless to go to someone else when we have direct access to the only viable mediator between man and the Father.
Except, we are told to pray for one another (James 5:16-18), we are told that the prayers of the righteous are particularly effective, and we know that God is the God of the living, not the dead (Luke 20:38) in direct reference to deceased saints.
To say that "praying to saints", or in other words, asking them to pray for us is wrong is foreign to historic Christianity and I'd argue biblical Christianity. What I won't do is argue against the typical protestant straw man that would identify praying to saints as idolatry while inconsistently asking for prayer from their peers (praying to their peers).
We shouldn't be surprised that the great cloud of witnesses waiting for us, who have been perfected in love and see our struggle here, are willing and able to speak to Jesus on our behalf..because they love us.
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