Nostr Web Client

You are right, users deserve answers, but definitely not in the combative/defensive way it's being done. If this continues, this issue will haunt you forever. You will be in an a tiring fight against your own users. You will just lose dev after dev because attackers can see that it is working. They will just keep attacking in the exact same way.

You can make your stand while avoiding these issues. There is no reason to let this distract from the mission.

Final 9mo ago

It absolutely doesn't mean to come across as combative, I think it would be totally wrong and out of line to be offended at someone finding this stuff for the first time or getting curious. Unfortunately such content being a top result with good SEO by being created by influencers leads the project having to put words out way more often than the project likes to. We get asked a lot, if we're being asked then answers are needed, else they wouldn't ask us.

We, and more specifically I would never let an issue like this distract from the objectives. A lot of the inflammatory responses do however disrupt work, but that's what community mods in the official chat rooms and forums are for. Distraction =/= disruption though. I do this for GrapheneOS because it means a lot to me and it has personally protected me in tough and hostile situations. I'm a forensics person, used Cellebrite and more -- but I love GrapheneOS and I'm absolutely okay with never being welcome in front of another forensic company's face.

Some of the work done to GrapheneOS after such content being made have been some of the most significant yet. Duress password feature, VM management improvements, USB port control feature to name a few. The former lead dev had little, and if being honest, no involvement in writing code for these features. I'd say that's pretty evident to keeping the mission going.

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Vitor Pamplona 9mo ago

You might not feel it. This might not be a distraction for you. But it is for everyone else. I guarantee that this thread alone made users question the projects' motives enough to avoid installing.

And I was trying to pump you up... But now it's all lost.

Final 9mo ago

Developing a highly private and secure mobile OS is the major motive, with a plus of providing security research and innovation. GrapheneOS as a project is anti-authoritarian, it's strictly focused on digital security and privacy. When it comes to security at a technical we are impartial about it. Too many people feed on conspiracies, what-if scenarios and pop culture to advertise security. I'm unwilling to do that.

Some communities choose to adopt GrapheneOS because they identify with it as a tool that helps them live a life of their ideal values, like Bitcoiners or Monero users do here. I and others don't put these labels on, that's their choice.

If they question or have doubts for GrapheneOS or think we're running some kind of conspiracy then I'm sorry they feel that way. That's not something I can resolve if dialogues don't work, and usually it doesn't regardless of what and who says it... It's just based on vibes by that point. The project organisation is clear about being upfront about things. This is not a business with a product to sell.

Final 9mo ago

following on this, my comment shouldn't have meant to downplay his efforts if it ever appeared that way, he is an irreplaceable and extremely talented individual and i'm saying this personally. He has helped a lot with what people don't always see and is an amazing engineer. the vulnerability disclosures to Google being associated with him aren't frills.