When I build a Chat app with:

- Private groups (MLS)

- Public Communities (#communikeys)

... that both use kind 9 chat messages.

How do you really expect me to mix in Nip-17 and call it "DMs" or "Chat Rooms"?

When the kind 14 messages used in that Nip:

- are less secure, private and direct than the MLS I already have

- don't make the conversation have a global state

- can optionally be signed for dispute regulation

- have a subject tag, like email

- can be forked and forwarded, like email

- are perfect for one-off communication in Marketplaces,etc... like email

No thanks.

It's Nostr Mail.

Because that's what it's good for.

Not Nostr Direct Messages.

My users don't need those false promises and confusion.

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where can I find more about communikeys?

1) In the Communikey for nostr:npub1vcxcc7r9racyslkfhrwu9qlznne9v95nmk3m5frd8lfuprdmwzpsxqzqcr :

https://chachi.chat/c/660d8c78651f70487ec9b8ddc283e29cf2561693dda3ba246d3fd3c08dbb7083

2) In this spec (which will have some slight updates soon):

nostr:naddr1qvzqqqrcvgpzp22rfmsktmgpk2rtan7zwu00zuzax5maq5dnsu5g3xxvqr2u3pd7qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uqqvmnfwqkkxccg0yzu5