Making women work is cruel.

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For people outside the nuclear family, yeah.

Then who will do the housework?

I mean in the world, of course.

Define work?

Maintaining a career.

Women with careers is only a problem if it prevents them from forming a family and being able to devote herself fulltime as a house wife to raising children.

Once the children are grown and out of the house, I see no issue with women having a 2nd career if they find it fulfilling.

Mate: look at the last century. That's exactly what it's done.

Men are women and women are men these days

Don't disagree with society wrecking impacts of female careers prioritized over motherhood and homemaking.

Simply making the reasonable observation that it's possible for women to have careers later on in life, without the aforementioned disasters.

On brand

You're still following me.

Is this a pro-choice note?

Making a woman have a baby is cruel?

A rape pregnancy is certainly cruel for the woman. Is that contentious?

So your original note was about forced labor, not women working a job by choice

Don't let the soy inside win, Kevin.

The soy is long dead.

Do you think a majority of the population feels they have a choice currently when it comes to single or dual income families?

I would like more context to the original note

How does this question apply to the #MasculineFrame context

And yes, it certainly is. That is not contentious at all.

The man who rejects work deserves the same abandon as the woman who rejects children.

Both, fleeing their role and duty, become grotesque, selfish trolls earning of society's indignation.

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Who tries to have authority over others is an enemy of freedom.

Raising children is harder work than I’d want to do alone. My wife went on a trip for a week and I had to manage the 3 boys. Shit that was taxing. My wife is a powerhouse of will power and patience.

The best and most honorary job.

Proverbs 31:10-31? How does this fit in?

Laboring within the home is not the same as working for money.

She is working for money. She is a garment maker while also laboring in the home.

Proverbs 31:24: She makes linen garments and sells them;

she delivers sashes to the merchant.

She labors for the home, not for herself.

Ok. I think I’m following. You are saying it is ok for a woman to have work or a career that earns money, if the mindset is that the money will be for the home and not for herself.

And in those passages, the woman worked from the home. She didn't go to an employer's location, away from her family.

She is delivering sashes to the merchant, but idk interesting thought. I don’t think this passage is specific to her earning money from home, but it would be hard to do the other things without mostly being at home. Unless “she rises while it is still night and her lamp doesn’t go out at night”😉

this i can agree with