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Obligatory contrarian Lightning Maxi take coming in hot...

Nostr's roots are as an iteration on how GUN was used in ShockWallet and Lightning Pages, as a means to have a web-friendly overlay network to connect Lightning to WebApps

This continues to the primary usecase for Nostr today even as a leaner and more flexible successor to GUN.

Users are funneled through the Lightning ecosystem for connecting LN to WebApps: Zap Signaling, NWC, kind 21000, accessing sat monetized services, and and more, is why any users are here to begin with. Heck, even these notes are about Lightning.

Without the network effect of Lightning as a native payments layer, Nostr its just another combination of websockets and json.

Anything that it's capable of is only in context of it making better Lightning Apps, because key-based identities, webservers, and json aren't otherwise novel.
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Melvin Carvalho 1y ago

Gun a very different project. I know it well. Nostr is a cut down version of SSB. Martti came over from gun to nostr, too.

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Justin (shocknet) 1y ago

Not very familiar with SSB but im assuming it doesn't use web relays, that's the key feature inherited from our use of GUN

Enabling apps that work in any browser and solve the networking issue is and ultimately what enables distribution where lightning can't reach.. keys and data only matter where they can be delivered to