1. I still don't know what MoE is but ROI is return on investment, not a future trade, and exchanging currencies isn't called "selling" in the English I'm used to, so this explanation of how I don't understand the conversation is just you using a couple terms you don't understand and one I don't understand, but it doesn't get me any closer to seeing something I'm supposedly missing about the conversation.

2. I didn't ask you to explain the use case of Bitcoin. Again, you said you don't "believe in" the use case of doggie coin, so I asked you to explain your position, since you do believe in the use case of Bitcoin, which appears to have the same use case but with a tighter supply cap in exchange for the horrible tradeoffs of worse transaction speed, worse transaction affordability, and potentially worse ROI.

3. The way you rephrased it here doesn't sound like you're clarifying that you mean people are suddenly done adopting doggie coin now. It sounds more like the other option, where you can't believe anyone has ever adopted it and you don't want to think too much about it.

4. So when you said "cheap and easy MoE" you meant "cheap and easy thing that might cause users to adopt oke thing over another" but what about people who want maximum ROI instead of a cheap and easy reasoning for their choice? It still seems like you're refusing to grasp the basic point here.

5. Again, ROI stands for "return on investment." I'm not sure where you get your ideas of what it means

ROI just means

you buy a thing at a price point

you sell it at a different price point

you time that sale so the difference is the highest positive number possible

its gambling and i dont have time for that.

people USE Bitcoin for stuff.

MoE is "medium of exchange"

ie they buy shit with it.

nobody USES doge for anything.

your entire "use" is simply getting more fiat in the future.

which is fine,

i just personally dont care.

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So you're saying this whole conversation boils down to you misunderstanding the term ROI.

You have it wrong. Buying something to sell it later is called "flipping." ROI is just the measure of results in any attempt to convert value at one time into more value at a future time.

And people use doggie coin plenty. Just because Bitcoin maxis run more online stores and stuff doesn't magically cancel out the existence of the doggie coin ones, for example

and I already addressed this point at the very beginning of this increasing hellish thread.

you just didn't understand.

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I didn't "just not understand," I told you I didn't know what MoE stood for and it didn't seem relevant, but you still kept going back and forth with me about it without explaining it until the end.

Whole thread would have been easier if you just explained what you were trying to say and didn't reply on me trying to guess what MoE stood for and what you thought ROI meant

Medium of Exchange

He did finally explain in the end, as I said.

And people use doggie coin as a medium of exchange all the time, that's the point of it, it's a currency

yawn

another crypto bro who thinks a USD number is "value"

cya

I didn't say anything about Uncle Sam Dinobux (USD)

Why are you acting like a chat bot?

What does USD have to do with the context you're replying to?

jfc dude

ROI is denominated in USD

all prices are dominated in USD

quit trying to seem clever.

In your last reply you were accusing me of thinking a USD number is value, now you're saying you believe you can force me to denominate everything in USD. Which is it, moron?

Your follow list is full of dollar brained fuckheads and you're the one acting like one here. If you followed me, you'd know I don't denominate shit in USD. I denominate things in doggie coin, but that doesn't work when comparing crypticurrencies, so I denominate cryptocurrency ROI in precious metals, as seen in any posts I've ever posted about the topic, such as these, which I'm posting as njump links because one of them seems to be having a hard time loading in nostrudel -

https://njump.me/nevent1qqspq3zp2tazhynv9r04tnvlk0wde4wutda3nca34u0np0qmprn2gggpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzypmhdsedfvw3azlj4946h66r4kddu9tm6d3a3xu8ld37du292kygshtrc8y

https://njump.me/nevent1qqsr7aarqlm2zvp3l0h755xepxpyx92ca4kqtj42ueww93k3adzt3lszypmhdsedfvw3azlj4946h66r4kddu9tm6d3a3xu8ld37du292kygsccy07v

you can personally denominate goods in whatever you like.

its got fuckall to do with anyone else.

the Unit of Account for the world is USD.

that doesnt change because you do division.

You're the one that accused me of thinking a USD number is value, and then tried to tell me "ROI is denominated in USD" like your own obsession with USD reflects on me.

Why are you so incapable of admitting fault?

i know facts are hard.

its very simple.

ROI is measured in USD.

*you said that is an increase in value.

*i think worrying about ROI is fiat gambling.

You measuring ROI in USD is your problem, not mine.

You gambling for USD is your problem, not mine.

Snap out of this bullshit trance. Learn to admit fault.

youre like a tranny that insists people use their pronouns.

sorry but facts matter.

You're the one that brought up USD, not me.

You're the one insisting ROI has to be calculated in USD, not me.

Are you a closet trans and projecting about that now too?

You've made this extremely difficult to read with the way you are sharing it and replying to the shared posts and whatever but from what I can tell you live in some kind of bubble where USA is the only country and nothing else exists. You do understand other countries exist with their own currencies?

Lol it reminds me of when I was working at the bakery and an American tried to pay with his USD money.

I guess making your cash so fragile is probably good for inflation.

I know a guy in real life that uses the dogecoin like for tax avoidance type stuff, he uses it to buy gift cards, gift cards for pretty much anything, grocery shopping online games utilities etc.