I’m lost. Is WOT a type of code that devs can add to a protocol to get rid of spam or is it an algorithm that controls what shows up on users feeds??
Why call it web of trust if it’s not about verification or trust at all and more so about feeds??
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WoT can simply be a whitelist of people allowed to post on a relay or a retarded censorship algorithm that Vitor made to censor people for wrongthink
Both, it's about who you give a trust factor to. All your follows, reactions, zaps contribute positively, a your mutes, reports and negative reactions contribute negatively. Then the system builds a massive web of who trusts who and those who are not trusted get less space in an app, relay, etc. There are lots of different algorithms, but it's all based on how much other people like or hate you.
So, essentially this = censoring for wrongthink.
Imagine the amounts of mutes/blocks early BTC zealots would have received.
Probably considered some of the worst on the web.
Leftists tend to be more active online and more likely to mute/ban.
Your entire view on how WoT operates needs to be reconsidered.
If you follow lefts, then yes. If you don't follow them, it doesn't affect you.
Explain?
WOT is personal. Your results on the web are based on the people you follow. So, each user gets what they like to see.
Vitor, look, you are a great dev.
Please stop with the gay shit ok?
Don't become worse than what Mastodon became
Verita is stress testing the uncensored narrative of nostr 🤷♂️
I am assuming the one reply on your post I can’t see in nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg is from that scumbag.
I support his right to send notes but have no interest in seeing his hateful bullshit so I am fine with clients filtering his content in my feed
do you want to create echo chambers?
Ohh that doesn’t seem inherently bad if it goes off of the users preferences but I don’t see why it has to have anything to do with whether or not other people like you… that feels really high schoolish.
If I like certain things and mute others why wouldn’t that be the only thing that impacts my feed. I don’t get what other people’s opinions have to do with anything. Like if someone doesn’t like me because I say things that make them uncomfortable that’s more of a them issue and not a me issue, right?
It might enforce an echo chamber of positivity
Correct, echo chambers are the worst it can do. But then in some clients, you can disable the web of trust filters. It's up to you. Relays don't allow you to choose though.
It's more of an sociological challenge than algorithmically. Honestly, I don't think it's about a side to pick but rather where you find yourself on the whole spectrum.
True. There should be clients that have and clients that don’t and the user should choose which they want.
The hard part is going to be disclosing that in a way in which normies understand the choice they’re making.
Wouldn’t that depend on who you follow? I follow a range of people and interests because I want a dynamic feed that is beautiful and mentally stimulating… but others may want that.
If someone wants an echo chamber of positivity isn’t that their choice? Maybe I’m not understanding the jargon but people are different some people may want a feed that’s butterflies and daisies while someone else may want charts only… I don’t see how that’s bad?
Yes, let the use choose, don't choose for the user
Agreed. But nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z said users can turn the WOT filter off so I think that’s what he’s doing… giving the user the option to choose. Right?
He makes the choice for the user first without clearly explaining what it does. Then you have the option to disable it.
That is wrong
Ohhh, fair. So if you have no idea what’s going on you’d have no clue that it’s even a thing… yeah, that’s kinda weird, idk. But maybe it’s to make the UX better in an attempt to grow the protocol?? Nostr isn’t very intuitive just yet
We don't even explain what a nsec and npub are. Filters on is just the best way to avoid using seeing a dick pick as soon as they create a user.
😂😂😂 never seen a dick but I have come across one too many boobs IMO … Damus has a tap feature where it’s blurred and then you tap to see the content.
Is that more WOT or just a filter??
We have that as well, but we show a warning instead but many users don't add the content warning, so there are lots of dicks around.
Correct. It's enabled for new users. Then everybody can disable if they want. It's just one click in settings.
Oh ok. Thats not too bad because you offer choice. It’s a really nuanced conversation.
It's not nuanced.
It should be off by default and then explain to the user exactly what will happen if enabled. Let the user turn it on if they want to
Ohhh, I get your argument. Maybe you could create some sort of onboarding content where you review the clients and thoroughly explain these things to new users. That way people can truly have a choice or at least understand they need to make one.
You have a perspective that’s really important and that could actually help people be informed and make their own choice. You know how to build stuff and people may really appreciate your take. It may also help encourage people to build what they want while also helping grow Nostr.